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Yeah all standard or RWD MY and M3 cars from past 18 months are LFP. Also all cars impacted look like Shanghai produced though I’ve not looked through them all.
The original poster for this thread TheWEB100 I believe is Canadian, and I thought Canadian M3 were shipped from Shanghai. Manufacture origin could be a factor.
F Fremont C for China?I believe in Canada model 3 RWD is from Fermont. Model Y RWD is from Shanghai.
My VIN has "F" in it on the 11th spot. According to what I googled anyway.
And you have or don't have the power drain issue?F Fremont C for China?
Mine is C, long range, made in Shanghai model 3
Is it specific to the newer Ryzen infotainment computer, or has it been observed on older cars with the Atom infotainment computer?This is not LFP only. I have a 2023 Fremont built MYLR without LFP battery and encountering similar issues of 8% drain per day with the car unable to sleep.
I don't know to be honest, my car is brand new, got yesterday morningAnd you have or don't have the power drain issue?
Jeez how widespread is this fault then?This is not LFP only. I have a 2023 Fremont built MYLR without LFP battery and encountering similar issues of 8% drain per day with the car unable to sleep.
Where did you get the car…I don't know to be honest, my car is brand new, got yesterday morning
Langley, BC -CanadaWhere did you get the car…
Did they ask for your Tesla login? That's really crazy because 30 minutes can easily keep your car awake forever (or at least most of the time). Some third party apps supposedly now has a way to ping the server to get cached data without waking up the car, but if your program is keeping the car awake, that obviously isn't what is happening.Somewhat related, I signed up for ConEdison's SmartCharge program to get a rebate for charging from 12am-8am, and I immediately noticed battery drain. I emailed them and they informed me that they ping the car as little as every 30 minutes when not charging and as much as every minute when charging. I told me that was crazy, the car would never sleep, but they said that's how they do it. SmartCharge is run by ev.energy, a vendor based in Palo Alto, so any utility company that uses them will likely also keep vehicles constantly awake. I like the rebates, but I hate the idea of draining battery wastefully just for this rebate program.
I doubt this is the cause of the OP's issue, but for others on this thread, it's something else to eliminate as a potential cause of battery drain.
What do these other apps do if they find out the car is asleep? Do they simply desist?I believe it depends how they do it. There is an api call that will tell you if the car is sleeping or not. That particular call will not wake the car up. Most of the other calls will however. It is my understanding that most apps (like TeslaFi) start by calling this service first and will only call the others if the car is already awake. The trick is that at some point, these apps need to stop polling so that the car has at least a chance of falling asleep. In the TeslaFi case (as I use that app) it's configurable but typically 15 minute pauses, with a check between, is enough. It's possible that SmartCharge does this and therefore wouldn't be more harmful than those other, well-behaved apps. But it would need to be verified.
Yup, pretty sure I had to login to Tesla and authorize their access during my signup process.Did they ask for your Tesla login? That's really crazy because 30 minutes can easily keep your car awake forever (or at least most of the time). Some third party apps supposedly now has a way to ping the server to get cached data without waking up the car, but if your program is keeping the car awake, that obviously isn't what is happening.
I thought it could have maybe been a bad 12v battery ( I made a service appointment to replace it) Someone said it could be the HV battery charging it constanty. But I then see alot more people having the same issue I am having. I have a 2020 MY 56k miles. Should I hold off on the replacement? I went into service mode and this is what shows for my 12v battery under low voltage section.Your car is "simply" staying awake. That energy expense is typical of a car that doesn't sleep. As others said, there have been bugs like this before. I remember some cars staying awake if the charger was plugged, even though not charging. Just an example.
Once you've verified all usual suspects (sentry, smart summon, COP etc) you could also check your low voltage (12V) system. If the battery is bad, the car might constantly try to charge it. There's a menu in service mode to check for low voltage health.