First big storm past few days. I had taken the Raven with Tesla 19" on the snow and it was great (posed separate thread on that).
Today was the first day I took it to work with a few flurries and sun in and out and cold.
When I pulled in it was not in my usual spot and pulled into a snow covered bush. I pulled in a bit to far.
When the car shut off I could hear the snow getting packed from car lowering itself. And the suspend hesitating and then squishing a couple times. Oops. Didn't give it another though.
The car looked clean when I came out. 20F out and way later than usual.
Went to open the door it didn't open. I could hear a motor in the door running. I thought not good. It was partially open and my reflex was to grab with my finger tips and help it along. I thought a motor was struggling to push door open.
Motor was still running in door. Then I realized crap, the window didn't go down. It was the Window motor still running. Not good. I hit the top of the window and it went right down to open door position and motor stopped. Window ran normally after that. Phew. So I guess the whirring motor is a warning to not shut the door with the Window fully up
Then I get in. Hit the brake. "Suspension Disabled, Will not rise" on the dash. Oh that doesn't sound good. Then I thought maybe it was from pulling in and packing the snow down and it never properly lowered. As soon as I put in reverse and backed out the error went away (I forget if I had to move away or not now). Tested height and it worked fine. So I'm assuming it didn't properly lower and it was being overly cautious.
So all in all not terrible. But cautiously optimistic all is ok.
Now onto prevention
Bit bummed about the window. Model 3 was pretty bad. I'm always leery of lubricants on windows and door gaskets.
I had bought the gummi pflege for the Model 3 as backup and never used it. I had a couple windows squeak a few weeks ago as it got colder as they wedged into the top notch on the Model X. Sounded like it might be hard on the gasket and/or motor over time. The gummi pflege stuff is NOT really a lubricant. It's a conditioner to make gaskets flex, seal better and last longer. It could make it worse (partly why I never used it on Model 3). But I figured this couldn't hurt much here, I could access it and wash it off if need be. Smells real nice. How could something that smells so nice cause a problem . It worked perfect, for the squeak. Week later the opposite window squeaked, one swipe along the top door opening all good. I really doubt it made an issue here with the frozen window. The Window was still stuck with door open. And was almost surely frozen along the top door window flap/gasket.
On some cars, usually on the inside there is a felt coated gasket along the glass. That is made to be dry. No lube. I forget what model 3 had there on the outside, I know it is felt on the inside on Model 3 and know it a rubber flap on the inside on the Model X (I had to fix an air leak, and posted thread about that).
I think on the Model X it's just a rubber strip as well. I don't want streaks on the glass either.
Should I try the gummy pflege on that top rubber outside flap? I think snow was on the car and melted from sun on driver side. Passenger side was completely normal. I don't want to start using a credit card and banging window. Yeah it happens to other cars. But never on any of mine in 40 years. Accept VW CC (also frameless) with SEVERE ICE (obvious prevention help needed). Never a problem with literally a few snow flakes that melted. Nothing visible on the ground or on the car.
I don't want any "wet lubricant" for sure. And if it's a dry lube I'm not sure it can prevent flap from freezing to the glass.
The Model 3 came up with I think a kind of ugly work around that tries to keep all windows down a smidge until you drive. It just kept reminding me it was a poor design and waved the work around in my face. I think the work around did help though. I hate when Software Engineers have to save the Mechanical engineers butts (I mange a team of Software, Electrical and Mechanical Engineers )
I assume there are many folks here with more experience on the X windows freezing. Advice?
Today was the first day I took it to work with a few flurries and sun in and out and cold.
When I pulled in it was not in my usual spot and pulled into a snow covered bush. I pulled in a bit to far.
When the car shut off I could hear the snow getting packed from car lowering itself. And the suspend hesitating and then squishing a couple times. Oops. Didn't give it another though.
The car looked clean when I came out. 20F out and way later than usual.
Went to open the door it didn't open. I could hear a motor in the door running. I thought not good. It was partially open and my reflex was to grab with my finger tips and help it along. I thought a motor was struggling to push door open.
Motor was still running in door. Then I realized crap, the window didn't go down. It was the Window motor still running. Not good. I hit the top of the window and it went right down to open door position and motor stopped. Window ran normally after that. Phew. So I guess the whirring motor is a warning to not shut the door with the Window fully up
Then I get in. Hit the brake. "Suspension Disabled, Will not rise" on the dash. Oh that doesn't sound good. Then I thought maybe it was from pulling in and packing the snow down and it never properly lowered. As soon as I put in reverse and backed out the error went away (I forget if I had to move away or not now). Tested height and it worked fine. So I'm assuming it didn't properly lower and it was being overly cautious.
So all in all not terrible. But cautiously optimistic all is ok.
Now onto prevention
Bit bummed about the window. Model 3 was pretty bad. I'm always leery of lubricants on windows and door gaskets.
I had bought the gummi pflege for the Model 3 as backup and never used it. I had a couple windows squeak a few weeks ago as it got colder as they wedged into the top notch on the Model X. Sounded like it might be hard on the gasket and/or motor over time. The gummi pflege stuff is NOT really a lubricant. It's a conditioner to make gaskets flex, seal better and last longer. It could make it worse (partly why I never used it on Model 3). But I figured this couldn't hurt much here, I could access it and wash it off if need be. Smells real nice. How could something that smells so nice cause a problem . It worked perfect, for the squeak. Week later the opposite window squeaked, one swipe along the top door opening all good. I really doubt it made an issue here with the frozen window. The Window was still stuck with door open. And was almost surely frozen along the top door window flap/gasket.
On some cars, usually on the inside there is a felt coated gasket along the glass. That is made to be dry. No lube. I forget what model 3 had there on the outside, I know it is felt on the inside on Model 3 and know it a rubber flap on the inside on the Model X (I had to fix an air leak, and posted thread about that).
I think on the Model X it's just a rubber strip as well. I don't want streaks on the glass either.
Should I try the gummy pflege on that top rubber outside flap? I think snow was on the car and melted from sun on driver side. Passenger side was completely normal. I don't want to start using a credit card and banging window. Yeah it happens to other cars. But never on any of mine in 40 years. Accept VW CC (also frameless) with SEVERE ICE (obvious prevention help needed). Never a problem with literally a few snow flakes that melted. Nothing visible on the ground or on the car.
I don't want any "wet lubricant" for sure. And if it's a dry lube I'm not sure it can prevent flap from freezing to the glass.
The Model 3 came up with I think a kind of ugly work around that tries to keep all windows down a smidge until you drive. It just kept reminding me it was a poor design and waved the work around in my face. I think the work around did help though. I hate when Software Engineers have to save the Mechanical engineers butts (I mange a team of Software, Electrical and Mechanical Engineers )
I assume there are many folks here with more experience on the X windows freezing. Advice?