yeah, back in the 50s volkswagens didn't have gas gauges either although by our '63 it had one (still no heater fan though)True. CA registrations are more than 3X the NE and NY metro total. Tesla is the new VW Beetle.
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yeah, back in the 50s volkswagens didn't have gas gauges either although by our '63 it had one (still no heater fan though)True. CA registrations are more than 3X the NE and NY metro total. Tesla is the new VW Beetle.
LOL, if I didn't know better I would think you were talking about the Chevy Bolt! If you want to experience narrow uncomfortable seats, many people (not me) HATE the Bolt seats. West Virginia is a charging desert for CCS as well as Superchargers, Chevy dealerships are hit and miss on giving loaners, and all EV's experience less range in winter conditions Many people wouldn't recommend any EV as an ONLY vehicle in West Virginia, but if you have an ICE backup car I wouldn't hesitate to get an EV... and with the long range and a few Superchargers I would chance it with a Tesla even as my only vehicle.In this scenario I would not get it. WV is cold and hilly and remote. In winter you will get poor range with virtually no chargers. The service center being so far away would also be a real pain as you can definitely expect to make multiple trips and they usually don’t provide loaners or any sort or human verbal contact. I guess call that service center in Pitt and verify that though. It’s a really great car but much better for warm urban environments. Agreed on the driver seat. The bottom cushion is super narrow. I’m 5-10 190 and find it barely wide enough. I would hold off and look for a decent awd ICE more suited to the mtns
In this scenario I would not get it. WV is cold and hilly and remote. In winter you will get poor range with virtually no chargers. The service center being so far away would also be a real pain as you can definitely expect to make multiple trips and they usually don’t provide loaners or any sort or human verbal contact. I guess call that service center in Pitt and verify that though. It’s a really great car but much better for warm urban environments. Agreed on the driver seat. The bottom cushion is super narrow. I’m 5-10 190 and find it barely wide enough. I would hold off and look for a decent awd ICE more suited to the mtns
Good point. I've had my car for 15 months, and have only used a super charger twice. Once to make sure it worked, and once during a trip (ironically, the super charger was in WV).Except if you can install even a 14-30 to charge at home having a supercharger nearby is not a necessity for an everyday car.
Good to know that Morgantown will be getting a V3 Supercharger. When I look at the available EV charging options in that part of WV it appears that there is little to no EV public charging infrastructure in or around Clarksburg, Bridgeport or Salem. Morgantown, Weston and Parkersburg each have a Sheetz store with Supercharging available but nothing around Clarksburg. Do you know if there is any charging infrastructure planned for Clarksburg?If you want an EV in WV and the option to travel Tesla is the only choice. I can get pretty much anywhere I need via the supercharger network. And I just found out they are building another set of superchargers in my town. These ones are V3 ones. As for power aside from that I live in a college town with more standard ev chargers being installed. Blink has 3 sets of chargers in town now for example.
I am going on another test drive this weekend with the model Y. This time I plan to take a lot more time adjusting the seat to see if I can mitigate my biggest concern. After reading and watching reviews I’m not super concerned about driving in snow or the range loss due to cold weather. None of my normal travels will be too impacted by range loss.
appreciate all the comments and feedback folks. I’ll post another update after my test drive.
Clarksburg is still kind of a blank spot. There as a level 2 charger at the Mountaineer Grille next to the mall in Clarksburg. I think one of the auto dealerships has a charger too.Good to know that Morgantown will be getting a V3 Supercharger. When I look at the available EV charging options in that part of WV it appears that there is little to no EV public charging infrastructure in or around Clarksburg, Bridgeport or Salem. Morgantown, Weston and Parkersburg each have a Sheetz store with Supercharging available but nothing around Clarksburg. Do you know if there is any charging infrastructure planned for Clarksburg?
Thank you for the information. Hopefully Clarksburg will get some additional charging infrastructure soon.Clarksburg is still kind of a blank spot. There as a level 2 charger at the Mountaineer Grille next to the mall in Clarksburg. I think one of the auto dealerships has a charger too.
As for any future plans I don’t know of anything at the moment.
here the charger at Mountaineer Grille Mountaineer Grille | Bridgeport, WV | EV Station
What’s daily mileage going to be?If you want an EV in WV and the option to travel Tesla is the only choice. I can get pretty much anywhere I need via the supercharger network. And I just found out they are building another set of superchargers in my town. These ones are V3 ones. As for power aside from that I live in a college town with more standard ev chargers being installed. Blink has 3 sets of chargers in town now for example.
I am going on another test drive this weekend with the model Y. This time I plan to take a lot more time adjusting the seat to see if I can mitigate my biggest concern. After reading and watching reviews I’m not super concerned about driving in snow or the range loss due to cold weather. None of my normal travels will be too impacted by range loss.
appreciate all the comments and feedback folks. I’ll post another update after my test drive.
When/if I have to go back to the office it’s 75 miles a day I’d be putting on the car. There are others at my work who have model 3 and S that do the same trip with no issues. So I think i should be okay. I do park in parking garage too so it will limit the high and low temps as well. And I should be able to plug in with the basic 120v plug too. Since I’m there for 8-10 hours I could in theory get some battery life back while working. Keyword is in theory haha.What’s daily mileage going to be?
I really think you need to take the epa range and divide by 2 for summer and 3 for winter to be safe/. The rated range is total bs downhill in hurricane stuff not sure who they pay to get those unrealistic numbers. If you can make it work at 1/2 and 1/3 range without too much drama then go for it. The biggest shortcoming of this car is just how far you can realistically go.
As long as you have a way to charge at home and at work you would have no problem. Any of the 240V charging circuits from 20A up to 60A will be able to add more than 75 miles of range to the Tesla Model Y overnight or even in 4 or 5 hours. At work, assuming you are able to charge using 120V, then you would be able to add ~30 to 40 miles of range over 10 hours, basically half of your commute's round trip distance.When/if I have to go back to the office it’s 75 miles a day I’d be putting on the car. There are others at my work who have model 3 and S that do the same trip with no issues. So I think i should be okay. I do park in parking garage too so it will limit the high and low temps as well. And I should be able to plug in with the basic 120v plug too. Since I’m there for 8-10 hours I could in theory get some battery life back while working. Keyword is in theory haha.
Consider this then. Start the week with 275 miles of range. Charge overnight for 10 hours at 3 charge miles per hour from the 15a outlet.When/if I have to go back to the office it’s 75 miles a day I’d be putting on the car. There are others at my work who have model 3 and S that do the same trip with no issues. So I think i should be okay. I do park in parking garage too so it will limit the high and low temps as well. And I should be able to plug in with the basic 120v plug too. Since I’m there for 8-10 hours I could in theory get some battery life back while working. Keyword is in theory haha.
you'll probably never use a super charger unless you travel then. I've used it once. To see that it worked before I ever went on a trip. Parked, plugged in, walked in to Wawa and bought a coffee, walked out and left with 44 miles added.I’ll be putting a 240v plug in my garage. I fully intend to use that as my primary charging method.
Well - there seem to be a lot of ex-Subie owners here! I too went from a Subaru - Outback touring ‘18.I got to test drive a model Y yesterday and for the most part it was a pretty great experience. I live in WV is is not very EV friendly. Our closest service center is up in Pittsburgh PA. Imagine my surprise when I saw that Tesla had a demo Model Y stationed at Oglebay Resort in Wheeling, WV. I signed up online to do a test drive and got a confirmation e-mail. From that point I had no more e-mail contact which seemed a little odd.
When I got to Oglebay to drive the Tesla is was fairly easy to find and was plugged into one of the two destination chargers. There was a QR code in the window to check in and do the test drive. However, my Pixel phone couldn't read the QR code for the test drive. Interestingly enough the other QR codes, for trade-in and demo videos, worked fine. Luckily they had a contact number for the Tesla Service Center up in Pittsburgh. I called in, talked to one of the sales staff and they unlocked the car for me and asked if I had any questions for my first test drive. I think I asked a couple questions and the lady on the phone was kind enough to answer them. From that point I was good to go for a 30 minute test drive.
My current daily driver is a 2020 Outback Touring and I used that as my comparison for the Long Range Model Y.
Overall, it was a fun experience and has me a lot more interested in potentially getting a Model Y. After driving Model Y and seeing how I fit in it, the Model 3 is probably out of the running now. I still have some concerns but more regarding service. I live in WV, which is not EV friendly, and the nearest service center is 90-120 minutes away (traffic depending). If I'm having an issue or need service the rangers can't provide that drive is going to get old really fast. My hope is that the service center is generous with loaner vehicles as Ubering back home or taking two cars up the service center are a no-go.
- Likes/Pros
- The process of doing the test drive is super simple. If i could have used the QR code to checkin I would never have needed to talk to a person which is kind of refreshing.
- Acceleration is just tons of fun on these cars. Tap the pedal and it just goes. That's a ton of fun.
- Steering settings - I liked being able to change to different modes. That being said I felt like I was fighting the car some in sport mode. In normal mode it was much more comfortable.'
- Ride Height - I drive a Subaru which has pretty great ride height. Model Y isn't as high up but I didn't feel like I sat much lower than in my Outback.
- One Pedal Driving - The Model Y had been charged to 100% so I'm sure my regenerative breaking wasn't working. That being said I got an impression of how the one pedal driving works. After about 10 minutes I felt comfortable with it and was able to stop taking my foot off the 'Gas' pedal and putting it on the brakes. This is something I thought would have more of a learning curve for me. That being said on the interstate I wager I'll feel different about it.
- Fit and finish - the car was in good shape and had a clean look/feel to it. My demo unit had 400ish miles on it with CA plates. Side note, no lumbar support for the passenger seat. I can understand why people enjoy the interior so much. There's not much to it but its still nice.
- Rear storage - Plenty of storage in the back. Comparable to what I have in my Outback so that would be an easy adjustment.
- Turn signal stalk - this one seems dumb but I loved that it just moves and snaps back and will keep the blinker going. I'm describing it poorly, but my Outback holds the stalk in place until you complete a turn. I liked that the stalk always stays in the same place.
- Dislikes/Cons
- Drivers seat comfort - Full disclosure I'm 6"4' 260+ pounds so I'm not small. I just couldn't adjust the seat to a comfortable position. To me it felt like the seat was a bit more narrow than those in my Outback. I also didn't realize that the headrest wasn't adjustable so it felt like the headrest was constantly pushing my head forward. I like to sit more upright than reclined so maybe I just need to adjust to reclining a bit more and then the headrest would be less of an issue. But I'm not sure how to 'fix' the feeling that the seat is more narrow. I wager its something I'd adjust to with time but it was kind of jarring at first. On a sidenote I'm bummed Model Y doesn't have ventilated seats. I love them on my Outback even with their weaker implementation of seat ventilation.
- Rear view look - I'd seen people post about how visibility out the back window was not great. They weren't wrong, as I felt like I couldn't see very well out the back. That being said I've been driving Outbacks for the last 7-8 years and rear visibility is pretty solid. I think it's something I could get used to but there would be adjustment period. It looks like its feasible to use the rear view camera while driving but I don't think that's a great solution for interstate driving.
- Blind Spot Monitoring - This is again something I can probably adjust to. I love on my current Outback that there's a light on the side view mirrors that illuminates if a vehicle is in your blindspot. I wish the Model Y had that. I know it will alert you on the center console too but that's a lot of eye movement being done to go back and forth between mirror and center display.
- Neutral
- The grey/silver colored Model Y looks better in person than it does in pictures. I'm still leaning towards either Blue or White but I could live with the grey too.
The thing that surprised me the most was just how much I didn't like the driver's seat. I plan to do another test drive where maybe I'm a little less excited and can spend some more time trying to dial that seat in right. If I can't be comfortable in the car it doesn't make sense to dump my current Outback. I think I can get it dialed in and then also adjust to how different the seats are it will just take time.
For someone who lives in WV and wants to be able to travel long distances Tesla is the only feasible vendor for me. I'm certainly leaning towards making a switch at some point. TBH it depends on whether the EV Tax Credits return. If so I think i'm in to start the EV experiment in WV for me. Thanks to anyone that read my overly detailed post. I think I'm using this post as a way to work through all of my plans for potentially getting a Model Y.