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Never is a long time.I think it should be clear by now that Tesla will never fix phantom braking.
I think it should be clear by now that Tesla will never fix phantom braking...
Which versions are we talking about?
1) Older radar-active version (cars sold before 4/27/2021)
or
2) Newer radarless/pure-vision version (North America Model 3 and Y sold on 4/27/2021 onward, or those on FSD beta)
This is utter bullcrap, to the point it makes me wonder if you are a Tesla plant. Driving down a road at 70 MPH with a car behind you, then suddenly slamming the brakes is HUGELY unsafe - like dangerous dangerous. Cruise Control was a solved problem half a century ago - Tesla should not be let off the hook for this terrible programming. At a minimum, there should be a way to turn any and all safety related add-ons such that cruise control is ONLY speed maintenance.If we define phantom braking as the hard braking events caused by false positives, I think this will definitely fixed over time. Vision-only needs more work for sure. but I don't think unanticipated braking events need to be fully eliminated. Just like when you ride with someone else who is a safe driver but brakes more than you, there's no single universal way to drive safely. The car may always apply brakes where you might not have. And that's ok, as long as it's done safely and gets you to your destination comfortably.
This is utter bullcrap, to the point it makes me wonder if you are a Tesla plant. Driving down a road at 70 MPH with a car behind you, then suddenly slamming the brakes is HUGELY unsafe - like dangerous dangerous. Cruise Control was a solved problem half a century ago - Tesla should not be let off the hook for this terrible programming. At a minimum, there should be a way to turn any and all safety related add-ons such that cruise control is ONLY speed maintenance.
But no, even a new 15 year-old driver behind the wheel for the first time isn't going to stand on the brakes on a clear road.
There is no reason whatsoever to make the forward collision thing *mandatory*...
I wrote exactly what I meant. None of the toggles available to us eliminate phantom braking - believe me I have tried every configuration.You mean "default" because at each drive, you can turn it off if you want to override the default.
...None of the toggles available to us eliminate phantom braking - believe me I have tried every configuration.
The ultrasonics are not suitable for AEB. They are too short range and are really only useful at low speeds due to latency. Tesla used ultrasonics for blind spot monitoring before they started using cameras and it was really bad.IMHO the emergency braking should not activate unless the ultrasonic sensors really detects something.
I get the feeling that we don't get the option because it could be seen as an admission that there is an issue.
I was really hoping that Vision Only would fix it, but it seems to make things worse instead. I guess the data model "sees" more phantom/false issues than the radar was "seeing".
IMHO the emergency braking should not activate unless the ultrasonic sensors really detects something.
Not sure why it's called phantom braking...
I've had the brakes applied quite forcefully at high speeds over nothing at all - it grates on the nerves like nothing else. I'm talking braking like I was standing on the pedal. and with nothing whatsoever in the road. Just frustrating as hell.Not sure why it's called phantom braking. I've never seen the brakes lights come on, it just goes into regen and lifts on the accelerator briefly then resume.
Never had the car hit the brakes except during FCW....