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Frameless windows

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by Muhammad, May 21, 2017.

  1. Muhammad

    Muhammad Member

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    The door is indeed ajar. This is proven by the fact that the window is lowered a few millimeters which is consistent with similar frame less doors that lower the window slightly when the door is open as is the case with Model S and Model 3
     
  2. melindav

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    Where have you seen the Model 3 windows would auto lower? Looking at the motor trend videos at the GF and the unveil night videos I can't see that it was like that on the alphas.
    Currently owning three cars with frameless door windows, none of them auto lower, i know it certainly isn't required and one of the easier items to remove manufacturing complexity from.
     
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    no disrespect to Trev, but not all frameless doors auto lower (hence the three that I own) and there is nothing saying the Model 3 will do this just because the S does (or audi or bmw...).
     
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  5. Zaphod

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    Curious, what car(s) do you own that don't lower the window when opening or closing? I've never seen a frameless window door not auto lower.
     
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  6. MP3Mike

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    How about a 1970 Chevy Impala? (I had one, and the windows were frameless and fully manual.) :)
     
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    1967 Mustang (only thing it has that is automatic is the transmission, so no surprise here)
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  8. JeffK

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    Do you get lots of added wind noise?
     
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    I have owned three Honda products that did not auto lower.
     
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    I had a 2005 Mustang GT and it auto lowered. That car cost me 23k brand new after discounts with leather etc (the only car I ordered sight unseen because they were so popular)... I am sure if Ford can put it in a Mustang at that price point 12 years ago then it shouldn't be a factor in the Model 3. It really does help with noise.
     
  11. Zaphod

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    That would be my concern. To do it right, I can't see how not having it lower would allow a good seal.
     
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  12. ProphetM

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    My 1997 Subaru Legacy didn't have it.
     
  13. melindav

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    in the mustang - yes. but the windows are probably the lest of the noise that car makes going down the road.

    in the others, no.
     
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    None of the Subarus did, until they went back to framed windows a few years ago.

    Never noticed any wind noise from the windows in my Forester.
     
  15. TEG

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    My 30 year old Toyota MR2 has frameless doors/windows that don't move the glass when you open and close.
    It just presses the glass against soft rubber... And doesn't have an issue with wind noise or rain leakage.
    mr2-window.png
     
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    My 2011 Challenger R/T has auto-lowering windows. Except when the miserable cold winters have frozen ice on the outside of the window, and I have to take a screwdriver and carefully tap it alone the lower weather seal to crack it loose.......
     
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    The Roadster's frameless windows don't auto-lower either. And, yes, there is a lot of wind noise, but I wouldn't necessarily attribute it to that.
     
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    And this. This is why needing windows to auto-lower just to open the door is a dumb fair-weather design. Yes, you can preheat longer, but you don't know you need to do that until it's time to leave. And now you're late.
     

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