Frameless windows

[Muhammad]

The door is indeed ajar. This is proven by the fact that the window is lowered a few millimeters which is consistent with similar frame less doors that lower the window slightly when the door is open as is the case with Model S and Model 3

 

[melindav]

The door is indeed ajar. This is proven by the fact that the window is lowered a few millimeters which is consistent with similar frame less doors that lower the window slightly when the door is open as is the case with Model S and Model 3

Where have you seen the Model 3 windows would auto lower? Looking at the motor trend videos at the GF and the unveil night videos I can't see that it was like that on the alphas.
Currently owning three cars with frameless door windows, none of them auto lower, i know it certainly isn't required and one of the easier items to remove manufacturing complexity from.

 

[T34ME]

Where have you seen the Model 3 windows would auto lower? Looking at the motor trend videos at the GF and the unveil night videos I can't see that it was like that on the alphas.
Currently owning three cars with frameless door windows, none of them auto lower, i know it certainly isn't required and one of the easier items to remove manufacturing complexity from.

 

[melindav]

no disrespect to Trev, but not all frameless doors auto lower (hence the three that I own) and there is nothing saying the Model 3 will do this just because the S does (or audi or bmw...).

 

[Zaphod]

no disrespect to Trev, but not all frameless doors auto lower (hence the three that I own) and there is nothing saying the Model 3 will do this just because the S does (or audi or bmw...).

Curious, what car(s) do you own that don't lower the window when opening or closing? I've never seen a frameless window door not auto lower.

 

[MP3Mike]

Curious, what car(s) do you own that don't lower the window when opening or closing? I've never seen a frameless window door not auto lower.

How about a 1970 Chevy Impala? (I had one, and the windows were frameless and fully manual.)

 

[melindav]

Curious, what car(s) do you own that don't lower the window when opening or closing? I've never seen a frameless window door not auto lower.

1967 Mustang (only thing it has that is automatic is the transmission, so no surprise here)
2000 Cougar
2008 Solstice

 

[JeffK]

1967 Mustang (only thing it has that is automatic is the transmission, so no surprise here)
2000 Cougar
2008 Solstice

Do you get lots of added wind noise?

 

[Sonny Daze]

Curious, what car(s) do you own that don't lower the window when opening or closing? I've never seen a frameless window door not auto lower.

1967 Mustang (only thing it has that is automatic is the transmission, so no surprise here)
2000 Cougar
2008 Solstice

I have owned three Honda products that did not auto lower.

 

[ummgood]

I had a 2005 Mustang GT and it auto lowered. That car cost me 23k brand new after discounts with leather etc (the only car I ordered sight unseen because they were so popular)... I am sure if Ford can put it in a Mustang at that price point 12 years ago then it shouldn't be a factor in the Model 3. It really does help with noise.

 

[Zaphod]

Do you get lots of added wind noise?

That would be my concern. To do it right, I can't see how not having it lower would allow a good seal.

 

[ProphetM]

Curious, what car(s) do you own that don't lower the window when opening or closing? I've never seen a frameless window door not auto lower.

My 1997 Subaru Legacy didn't have it.

 

[melindav]

Do you get lots of added wind noise?

in the mustang - yes. but the windows are probably the lest of the noise that car makes going down the road.

in the others, no.

 

[Bangor Bob]

My 1997 Subaru Legacy didn't have it.

None of the Subarus did, until they went back to framed windows a few years ago.

Never noticed any wind noise from the windows in my Forester.

 

[TEG]

My 30 year old Toyota MR2 has frameless doors/windows that don't move the glass when you open and close.
It just presses the glass against soft rubber... And doesn't have an issue with wind noise or rain leakage.

 

[timk225]

My 2011 Challenger R/T has auto-lowering windows. Except when the miserable cold winters have frozen ice on the outside of the window, and I have to take a screwdriver and carefully tap it alone the lower weather seal to crack it loose.......

 

[gregd]

Curious, what car(s) do you own that don't lower the window when opening or closing? I've never seen a frameless window door not auto lower.

The Roadster's frameless windows don't auto-lower either. And, yes, there is a lot of wind noise, but I wouldn't necessarily attribute it to that.

 

[Bangor Bob]

My 2011 Challenger R/T has auto-lowering windows. Except when the miserable cold winters have frozen ice on the outside of the window, and I have to take a screwdriver and carefully tap it alone the lower weather seal to crack it loose.......

And this. This is why needing windows to auto-lower just to open the door is a dumb fair-weather design. Yes, you can preheat longer, but you don't know you need to do that until it's time to leave. And now you're late.