Actually, your post was my first ever pro yoke response. But your Mensa level decision of taking a 40k hit to change cars on something that could have been addressed with far less drama and economics was truly a head slapper for me and made me question if you were a bot.
That’s legit. I use the yoke a bit differently than a wheel. I didn’t think about it till this morning, but when I make a turn, say a RT, my right hand slides to the top while my left hand loosens and slides down, still on but more like guiding. I pull down with my right hand letting my left hand glide as the yoke slides through it. Once my right hand is at the bottom, not across center, just straight down, my left hand tightens it’s grip and goes up while my right hand releases, moves up and grabs the other side of the yoke, which is now on the right side and pulls down. On turn recovery, it’s the exact opposite. My hands never cross, I don’t get into all those convoluted positions you see people doing, to turn using a yoke. (seriously, who tries to turn a wheel from the 9-3 and not remove their hands?).
Yes usually the argument for the yoke is that people think it looks cool or people really love the 9:00 and 3:00 position constantly for their hands. If you love 9:00 and 3:00 so much and love driving with two hands 100% of the time just do it with a steering wheel. Steering wheels still superior in this case because at least you have something circular to grab onto in your lap vastly superior than something rectangular
I felt like the model S with the yoke was seriously the most unsafe car I've ever driven. No balance points for your hands for long distances relying on autopilot nearly 100% of the time because manually steering it is so unrealistic. That's why I offloaded it as fast as I could I did not think that that was a safe car. I'll be shocked if safety statistics do not prove that the yoke is a much more dangerous operating system than a steering wheel
I think I've offered vastly more science, physics, ergonomics and more in my initial post than I've heard from any people that espouse the yoke. The yoke argument is usually that it offers a better view of the screen and it forces you into using the nine and three o'clock positions nearly 100% of the time driving. This also means that it necessitates two-handed steering. What do you think is better something that you can operate with one hand if you need to or that you have to operate with two hands? Obviously driving is something that we spend a lot of time doing and we simply don't want to or don't have to operate with two hands. The simplest solution usually wins. A 360° steering wheel is the simplest by far. Occam's razor
I think the yoke will actually be worse with a more sensitive steering ratio. I think a more sensitive steering ratio with the yoke is going to equate to more accidents more quickly because it doesn't fix any of the problems the yoke presents
Yes, when on autopilot on my model 3 typically my hand is in my lap at the 4:00 position palm up and I have a rock solid grip of the steering wheel. This is vastly superior to any position that I discovered with the yoke.
Take a look at the options for the steering wheel most of them are not even round. Even the ones that look around are not circular they're bigger on the top than they are the bottom. Not something I'm willing to mess with. It was a terrible decision for me to buy a car with a yoke. I owned up to that and took the hit and moved on to the model 3
That's great that you 'think' that-but drivers who have driven it on track, and benchmark engineers I've talked to mentioned a more variable steering ratio, not 'just' a quicker rack. Since you value scientific data, surely you are open to contrary information as you might just have a situational bias correct? Indeed, one of the worlds most conservative legacy OEMs, Toyota, have adapted such a system for its yoke a drive-by-wire system that enables it to adjust the steering for low-speed situations and sharp turns.
You've meshed two different economic operational requirements (flying a plane, driving a car) for your argument. Those two aren't directly comparable. So your 'findings' are flawed.
And I will never buy another Tesla with a yoke.
Did not ask for your opinion. Replying to tessp100d’s response for wishing that owners would crash it. Negativity and sounds like you’re supporting. You sold your tesla as you claim because of safety so be happy and move on. Show us some proof or you’re simply trolling in these forums like tessp100d.
