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Maybe Boring-Company is just a cover-up to dig smugling-tunnels?!
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Way too oversimplified to the point of reaching for conclusions.
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I think this might be relevant for investors
That looks very bad for Tesla. No matter how you spin it, AP makes active steering input to hit the barrier. It is not that it did not avoid it. It actively steered towards it.
That looks very bad for Tesla. No matter how you spin it, AP makes active steering input to hit the barrier. It is not that it did not avoid it. It actively steered towards it.
It works as designed. It stays within the visible lines like it's supposed to. It just shows that the driver needs to pay attention, just like Tesla says. Especially where there's very poor line markings.
MacRocket
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With Tesla if it’s hot you just leave the air on (camper mode) set at whatever temperature you want, this can run all day if you want and will only use 5% of your battery.
I use it when I visit the supermarket or other shops mostly for less than an hour or two. Great to come back to a cool car to.
Tesla also has overheat protection too.
I think you could safely say that the screen is safe
I agree it doesn't *look* good. It could potentially affect the adoption rate for the autopilot, and Tesla should definitely focus more on informing potential buyers what the autopilot is and what it is not. They should also (continue to) roll out autopilot improvements to increase functionality and reduce the accident rate further. (But that is already a very high priority, and the accident doesn't change that.)
At some point known shortcomings in a design become negligence. Especially when there is technology to mitigate them like tracking the driver through an interior camera. A secondary consideration : is Tesla clear enough towards their customers on the design? Can it do better, for example with customers receiving their car in the end-of-quarter rush, which may leave as little as 12 minutes interaction between the customer and the Tesla delivery specialist. Or reacting more forcebly when videos appear with clearly reckless behaviour like the orange trick. I think those are the areas that don't look good for Tesla. Luckily they are remediable. Unfortunately, we haven't seen a lot of movement towards actual remediation for now.
Something I don't quite understand is why Tesla stopped displaying electric miles (you remember the counter?)
and it's not proactively declaring Autopilot miles:
we could calculate the accident rates, and those metrics could be very helpful for the self-driving debate.
and it's not proactively declaring Autopilot miles:
we could calculate the accident rates, and those metrics could be very helpful for the self-driving debate.
But it should.
Read the description what the AP does and what it does not do. You are anticipating something that Tesla never promised nor is a meaningful behaviors to eliminate accidents at the level AP operates. Expecting something the AP is not designed for can easily lead to fatalities you did not expect.
One example, people have a hard time to understand why the car does not recognize the road block and stops. Well if you ask the AP to do that you will experience a large amount of severe accidents on highways simply because if the car detects something standing on the road you as I driver won't care about the car would do an emergency stop. Can you imagine what the would cause in a situation of high speed and dense traffic?
Seriously looking at the Videos I am not an all surprised that the car is heading into the road block. This is at this stage the full responsibility of the driver.
Also, I call this a very dangerous spot even for normal drivers and only can say that the authorities here in Germany would be liable for such an accident given the confusing markings and the concrete block design without previous dividers out of softer material. Don't know who came up with that idea but that person should be fired and all who approved it.
At the same time saying : "don't do that then" isn't necessarily a good defense. I work in automation making stuff move that can easily kill. We can't just say to operators : "don't cross the yellow line", we must actively guard that they don't cross the line (and guard the guard as well). And if they still do cross the line despite being told not to, it is our fault if that harms them. Obviously there is a balance. You can't guard against everything. But at some point, some regulator is going to say : "but you could guard against this kind of misuse of your design". And if that happens after a major accident, it's too late. I am hoping Tesla is working on using the interior camera on the Model 3 as a high priority to help customers use Autopilot responsibly. That would be a major step forward.
Todd Burch
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VIN 15,7xx reported this morning too.
This is by far the fastest I’ve seen VINs crank out. Tesla will need to register more within a couple days.
This is by far the fastest I’ve seen VINs crank out. Tesla will need to register more within a couple days.
Reciprocity
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Why, they have 5000 unassigned VINs based on the 15800 level. They registered 4700 last week. It would be interesting if they did though.
Todd Burch
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Because we’ve been seeing the VIN numbers get registered several thousand VINs ahead of when we start seeing them get assigned in the local threads here. Just going off that.
We were in the 10,000s or so when 15,885 was registered. We were in the 13s or so when 20,581 was registered.
Reciprocity
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I am just looking at the rate of the current VIN registrations and if they did another 2000 today, it would be more then 3500/w over the past 14 days. That would be awesome but I dont know why they would need so many VINs over such a short period of time.
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