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Green New Deal
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juliusa
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juliusa
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Both politicians that care more about themselves and being president than they care about the country...or anything else.
juliusa
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Why does it poll so poorly among Democrats and Republicans in Congress?? Can't get co-sponsors on the GND resolution, and a lot of resistance from Democrats on giving it a simple up or down vote.
nwdiver
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JRP3
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Keep telling yourself that to justify your inaction. The differences are real, and important.
SageBrush
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Young climate strikers can win their fight. We must all help
Young climate strikers can win their fight. We must all help | George Monbiot
Good insights into what makes movements successful.
This objective should be supported by a set of irreducible principles that can be explained and spread with pride and conviction. Here are a couple of possible examples. “Human life is not negotiable, it cannot be exchanged for money.” “Those generations that are yet to be born have the same rights as those already alive.”
This suggests another crucial element: a protest community strong enough to resist all attempts at division and co-option. Such communities do not arise by accident but are consciously and carefully constructed, often with the help of training, music and fun. They must be strong enough to support people threatened by despair, burnout or breakdown, especially when the response gets nasty.
Successful movements also need an organisational model that allows them to keep growing. One promising approach is Big Organizing, through which campaigners create proliferating networks, each branch of which trains the branches that grow from it. It helped Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez take her seat in the United States Congress. They need clever, funny and innovative tactics, which take opponents by surprise and create a sense of forward momentum.
Young climate strikers can win their fight. We must all help | George Monbiot
Good insights into what makes movements successful.
This objective should be supported by a set of irreducible principles that can be explained and spread with pride and conviction. Here are a couple of possible examples. “Human life is not negotiable, it cannot be exchanged for money.” “Those generations that are yet to be born have the same rights as those already alive.”
This suggests another crucial element: a protest community strong enough to resist all attempts at division and co-option. Such communities do not arise by accident but are consciously and carefully constructed, often with the help of training, music and fun. They must be strong enough to support people threatened by despair, burnout or breakdown, especially when the response gets nasty.
Successful movements also need an organisational model that allows them to keep growing. One promising approach is Big Organizing, through which campaigners create proliferating networks, each branch of which trains the branches that grow from it. It helped Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez take her seat in the United States Congress. They need clever, funny and innovative tactics, which take opponents by surprise and create a sense of forward momentum.
On Paying for a Progressive Agenda Opinion | On Paying for a Progressive Agenda
Krugman on "but how do we pay for it?"
Some things we should pay for and others, not.
Krugman on "but how do we pay for it?"
Some things we should pay for and others, not.
juliusa
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juliusa
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Why pay for any of it? For that matter, why have taxes at all - just borrow and print money. What is money anyway - does anyone really care? We should be saving the world - just do away with the IRS and taxes, and spend money to save the planet.
SageBrush
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SageBrush
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I don't follow much of the "logic" in your posts so I'm inclined to believe that you are just being sarcastic and not contributing to the discussion.
If you do have something well reasoned to add, I'm ready to hear it. However, if you keep posting nonsense, I'll ignore you.
https://thinkprogress.org/nyt-colum...pelosi-stands-on-climate-change-50445738d7a1/
The climate deniers are out in force attacking the Green New Deal and anyone who might support it. The usual lies and distortions.
The main thrust of the op-ed written by columnist Bret Stephens is to argue that Pelosi has an “incrementalist approach to climate” in order to falsely argue that this proves she doesn’t believe in the dire predictions of climate science. And within this, Stephens spreads confusion about the urgency of the science on climate change and proposed plans to ambitiously tackle the global issue, like the Green New Deal which calls for rapid decarbonization of the economy within a decade.
For context, the hyperlink Stephens includes goes to an EcoWatch article explaining that the Times hired Stephens in 2017 even though he was a well-known denier of climate science — and that Stephens’s very first piece in the new job was riddled with climate misinformation.
The climate deniers are out in force attacking the Green New Deal and anyone who might support it. The usual lies and distortions.
The main thrust of the op-ed written by columnist Bret Stephens is to argue that Pelosi has an “incrementalist approach to climate” in order to falsely argue that this proves she doesn’t believe in the dire predictions of climate science. And within this, Stephens spreads confusion about the urgency of the science on climate change and proposed plans to ambitiously tackle the global issue, like the Green New Deal which calls for rapid decarbonization of the economy within a decade.
For context, the hyperlink Stephens includes goes to an EcoWatch article explaining that the Times hired Stephens in 2017 even though he was a well-known denier of climate science — and that Stephens’s very first piece in the new job was riddled with climate misinformation.
juliusa
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Why are you so interested in who I vote for - I already told you it is the best candidate.
juliusa
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It is not just the climate deniers out in force attacking it. There seems to be limited support in congress for it - nobody seems to want it to come to a vote and have to go on the record.
In spite of overwhelming public support (60% to 80%)for the Green New Deal, the politicians are reluctant to support it because it threatens their bribes from fossil fuel, etc.
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