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Gridserve Charger Sites in UK [megathread]
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Sean.
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I really like the concept, and Gridserve have big ambitions here, however I do wonder how quickly they will be able to scale out the EF network in this country which is hampered by sometimes err ‘challenging’ planning restrictions and also grid capacity issues.
Taking the supercharger network for comparison it has taken Tesla about 6 years to open approx. 60 SC sites, on average 10 per year roughly. The EF proposals are much larger 24 to 40 stalls per site with more bells and whistles. I don’t think they will be able to scale at nearly the same rate, not without huge investment or partnership with either an auto manufacturer or dare I say it a petroleum company that is looking for a transformation partner.
Hopefully they will be able to build half a dozen or sites to prove the model works.
As long as the facilities are open 24/7 I'm game. That’s one of the bad things with the recent Service Centre roll out of Superchargers. Shame they can’t have a door on a code for 24/7 access to the toilets / coffee with the PIN shown on car’s Nav- similar to kettleman city and Vegas
The sites are being chosen based on access to the grid and they are large enough scale to connect at 33kv if needed. As getting a road connection is often easyer then a grid connection, developing new "services" sites based on where grid connection are easy makes sence compared to trying to add large charging clusters to all existing service stations.
They also also using the "higher class" common of EV owners to target higher end retail and food
Glan gluaisne
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I suspect the associated retail outlets will be the real profit generating elements at these sites, much as they are at motorway services, and even ordinary filling stations.
There has to be a pretty synergistic link between rapid charging and some types of retail, it's probably better than retail at conventional filling stations. When someone stops to charge, they will have 20 minutes or more free, and that has to be an ideal opportunity to sell them stuff.
There has to be a pretty synergistic link between rapid charging and some types of retail, it's probably better than retail at conventional filling stations. When someone stops to charge, they will have 20 minutes or more free, and that has to be an ideal opportunity to sell them stuff.
Sean.
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Someone on SpeakEV has searched companies house and found the following;
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All these names are registered as Electric Forecourt Ltd with Companies House. This could indicate present and future projects. I thought that I came across one that was dissolved, but can’t find it now. That may indicate that the project fell through.
Braintree
Plymouth Centre
Eton
Dover
Markham Vale
Newark South
Yeovil
Leeds West
Warwick South
Gateshead
Norwich East
Gatwick
Stevenage
Minehead Solar
Uckfield Solar
In the case of Warwick South, an Environment Impact Assessment has been requested on land at Bishops Tachbrook.
Some of the sites will be directly connected to Solar Farms
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All these names are registered as Electric Forecourt Ltd with Companies House. This could indicate present and future projects. I thought that I came across one that was dissolved, but can’t find it now. That may indicate that the project fell through.
Braintree
Plymouth Centre
Eton
Dover
Markham Vale
Newark South
Yeovil
Leeds West
Warwick South
Gateshead
Norwich East
Gatwick
Stevenage
Minehead Solar
Uckfield Solar
In the case of Warwick South, an Environment Impact Assessment has been requested on land at Bishops Tachbrook.
Some of the sites will be directly connected to Solar Farms
OK thats the English list. Now can we have the list for Wales please.............
Sean.
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Yeh I came across that too when I searched CH - think it was the predecessor to Norwich East if memory serves
Electric Forecourt is also a registered trademark.
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cezdoc
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Apparently the problem with Wales in general is poor grid connections - and an expectation that anyone wanting to put in a facility that needs higher capacity will also pay for the grid upgrades. I read somewhere that the proposed Supercharger at Builth Wells is held up for this reason - and as it was it would have needed to be taken off line for a couple of weeks each year when the Royal Welsh Show was being held. Feels like a real lack of vision from the government to access some funding to help with this (surely funding exists?).
Looks like they’ve be put some effort/money into that. The inside of the building looks a lot better than I was expecting. Lots of wood*
agree with the comments in another place, they may postpone until 2nd Dec
(Moved from supercharger thread, better thread for the non-supercharger chat probably)
*no, not that.
agree with the comments in another place, they may postpone until 2nd Dec
(Moved from supercharger thread, better thread for the non-supercharger chat probably)
*no, not that.
I agree they may, but, they shouldn’t. If they want to be taken seriously like a “forecourt” they should be open as an essential service. Just like petrol and diesel forecourts.
Shame if they do.
(moved too)
If they were already open no doubt they would stay open, but it makes sense I think to postpone a grand-opening.
Lots of people would have been making a special trip for that on the first weekend.
if those slides were from a presentation they did today though, perhaps they’ve set the date knowing we’ll be in lockdown. One way of making it a soft start.
Lots of people would have been making a special trip for that on the first weekend.
if those slides were from a presentation they did today though, perhaps they’ve set the date knowing we’ll be in lockdown. One way of making it a soft start.
Looks like FullyChargedShow are there for a video
https://twitter.com/bobbyllew/status/1326839011030216705?s=21
https://twitter.com/bobbyllew/status/1326839011030216705?s=21
Sean.
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I suppose a trip to GS could be considered “essential” to charge the car in the same way it’s essential to fill up an ICE at the local garage 
Dan's suggesting they'll open in December now. https://twitter.com/FullyChargedDan/status/1327020043532705794?s=20
Country Boy
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Sean.
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They’ve planning in the works for various other EF sites, including one in your desert
Electric Forecourt is a registered trademark - so if you do a search on CH it comes up with the companies that they’ve setup for the future sites...
Companies House
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