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Garlan Garner
Banned
Concerning Superchargers.......yes.
Tesla is increasingly able to make businesses pay for the electricity delivered by its Superchargers
Don't you guys remember this article? I've been following this.
Walmart made an interesting comment. - "We would love to install superchargers at our stores at a rate of 100 per store, however the clientele of Tesla owners isn't our focused target group".
I believe we all know what that means. Rich people don't shop at Walmart enough for this endeavor. Just maybe the Model 3 will change things in more ways than what its intended to. LOL
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alseTrick
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Garlan Garner
Banned
I think that the above is a given when you work for someone else. Your creation becomes their creation. A company must grapple with the decision to gift more than a token of appreciation when they go to sell that item to someone else. Correct no loss, but are we working all for the little sisters of the poor? Lost opportunity by gifting token of EAP etc....Could be revenue.
Definition of Token::small or limited but having a symbolic importance:
Is getting an option that costs 14% of car price a token?
Next thing I will hear is all the good will that will be created when EAP, FSD are free for all.
SpiceWare
Member
Impatient?
That something of value should be free in one instance, but not in another.
Garlan Garner
Banned
Yeah....like free supercharging for Model S and X owners and NOT for Model 3 owners.Impatient?
That something of value should be free in one instance, but not in another.
Oh yeah, that's right......free supercharging isn't really free for Model S and X owners. I forgot.
Difference Between Economic and Accounting Profit
Garlan, you start off so far from the end it can't be explained in a few sentences on a forum. Businesses aren't out to make accounting profits, though that is what they report. They are out to make economic profits.
Garlan Garner
Banned
Tesla is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.
They haven't made an economic profit YET and I believe that they are achieving their ultimate goal and purpose statement. Not that they won't, but there are a ton of things that a businesses have had as their objectives. Its not ALWAYS about profit. I really really believe that if ELON could rocket propel the planet into saving itself from the self destruction that pollutants and such are doing right now....that he would do it without profit in mind.
I have a business where I don't mind breaking even if it continues to do the same. My solar business. Its doing really well and I don't need profit from it. My business is all about bettering the environment and people. I have a job that sustains life.
Most people have a one track mind and its always about money. Thank God money is not how EVERYTHING works.
So unfortunately I see your position as one that needs some expanding and understanding.
I really hope that Elon has someone or people constantly encouraging him that he is doing a fantastic job concerning the environment and Teslas ultimate goal. Here is one of the only CEO's out there being honest with investors ( money hungry ) that their stock is overvalued. Who does that? I'll tell you who. A person who is not simply worried about profit - no matter what kind it is.
With that said.....I don't see Tesla tanking or falling over a cliff by rewarding "people who waited in line" ( Direct quote from ELON on July 28th.) - some 40K people with something that really won't cost them much of anything at all. Does Tesla and Elon really appreciate line waiters as he stated?
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Garlan Garner
Banned
And I still say the mentioned awards/gifts wont hurt Teslas profits. My argument is ( and forever has been )that neither duplicating software nor free supercharging nor a paint other than black will hurt Teslas profits. For goodness sake - they haven't made any profits. I believe the reason the stock went up after this last earnings call is because Tesla didn't lose as much money as predicted.
AND - No I didn't bring up profits. I'm talking about how irrelevant Telsa profits are concerning this topic.
Other people are saying that some of our suggestions as far as awards and gifts are concerned would eat into Teslas profits.
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Garlan Garner
Banned
When a person pays $5k for Enhanced Auto Pilot.....what are they buying?
A one time shot of software? Who pays for all of the updates? or is that what Tesla will do for Free- forever?
Will Tesla provide you with copies of their "updated" software for free? forever?
A one time shot of software? Who pays for all of the updates? or is that what Tesla will do for Free- forever?
Will Tesla provide you with copies of their "updated" software for free? forever?
Dynastar
Member
All I want is an easter egg of Elon thanking us first day folks for trusting in his company. Optionally, it should play every time the car turns on.
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
EXOTIC1
Member
pirate a movie is a no-no
but i'm all for streaming
Garlan Garner
Banned
That would be Hilarious.All I want is an easter egg of Elon thanking us first day folks for trusting in his company. Optionally, it should play every time the car turns on.
Garlan Garner
Banned
Its sooooo hard to choose. LOL
Of course the developers don't get paid by the car, but they do get paid. The only way Tesla has of recouping that payment is by charging for the software that was developed. Tesla has determined that that cost will be $5,000, they feel that that is enough to recoup what they paid for initial development, ongoing troubleshooting, and future enhancements (which the customer will not be charged for). Sure they can copy it as many times as they want to for little cost but it isn't the cost of the copying that they need to cover.
As an example, say a company paid a developer $100,000 for some software, then they sold one copy of it for $10 and gave away 1,000 more for free. They are still out $99,990.
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