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Having owned a Model Y would you consider the F-150 lightening
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I have a different perspective in that I dont yet have a tesla but one coming in about a week.
A BIG reason why I chose tesla is their charging network. I was listening to tmc podcast and they talked about other chargers and the issues that are abound in that space. You are "competing" with all other EVs and hybrid owners wanting to charge their car.
I would gladly pay more for an "exclusive" charging network (I hope they dont change it in the US!), and chargers that "just work". You plug in and car chargers and you get charged the right amount without inserting any CC or downloading any app.
The F-150 with the larger battery is a compelling sell but it’s completely different from a Model Y which is a crossover. Trucks are more utility vehicles and the conveniences of the F-150 Iightning make it pretty compelling. I like the power frunk, the outlets, and the liftgate additions. The biggest issues are with reliability, charging network, pouch batteries, and pricing.
For me, a crossover is fine but if I wanted to get stuff from lowes or HD, I would like a pickup. For something that is more in-between, a minivan would be a great combination. I wish Tesla would make a minivan.
For me, a crossover is fine but if I wanted to get stuff from lowes or HD, I would like a pickup. For something that is more in-between, a minivan would be a great combination. I wish Tesla would make a minivan.
Watts_Up
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Also the Tesla charging network is well integrated within the navigation system. So the navigation determines where and when to stop for charging.
This is quite acurate, so for example if the navigation determines that you will arrive with 25% of SoC, this will be the case.
The car constantly recalculate the estimate consumption, so if you are going up hill you will see that you final SoC will be going down,
but then when you will be going down hiil, the final SoC will be going up, and so on, but at your arrival the final SoC will be the one originaly calculated.
So no guessing needed to make during your trip for determining if you will be able to reach the next charger.
Note: I don't know how charging is integrated with the navigation for the other EVs?
I remember going to a VW EV test event last year, and when driving an ID.4 I wanted to visit
a charger located about 2 miles away, but the sale representative was not able to show me
how to use the navigation to find the charger and told me that I should use an App on my phone.
Tesla Beats Public EV Charging With ONE Tactic - Vertical Integration
Louis and Mike discuss the failures of public EV charging and how a closed system allows Tesla to easily have the best charging network in the entire industry. This is a clip from TMC Podcast #18.
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Watts_Up
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I read about some various projects of utilitarian and passengers vans
based of the Model X platform, particularly designed for the Boring company.
FastEddieB
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Exactly.
I posred this image before - an image from the web:
After getting used to the “barebone” simplicity of my M3 over the last 6 months, the Ford panel just looks needlessly “busy”. Probably no worse than trucks of this class from other manufacturers, but just seems like a poor UI. I’m sure one would get used to it quickly, but the simplicity of the Tesla interior and panel pleases me on a level that the Ford certainly does not.
We don’t “need” a truck, only because we have a 2006 Honda Ridgeline “beater” for hauling stuff. There’s something liberating in owning an old, cosmetically challenged truck that comes “pre-banged up”. But we do have a deposit down on the CyberTruck, and once it’s released we’ll have to see whether it makes any sense at all for our use case.
It's one thing to have electrical or software issues, but Ford is having problems in areas they shouldn't be considering how long they've been around:
22S55 2022 Mach-E Recall: Rear Axle Half Shaft May Break Under Load (8/26/2022) | MachEforum - Ford Mustang Mach-E Forum, News, Owners, Discussions
So right now, an owner can have one of several major problems: High Voltage Battery Junction Box Failure, overheating, and now this. All can lead to getting stranded or worse. The HVBJB is getting replaced very slowly and there are whispers of the new ones failing for a couple people already. That's why when their CEO opens his trap, I just laugh.
Today's F150 work involved a 60 mile trip hauling 1000 pounds of lumber. I suppose the Model Y with a trailer could have handled the weight...except for the final ½ mile which required full on four wheel drive and WAY MORE ground clearance than the Model Y dreams of.
i see no comparison between Model Y and F150 Lightning
i see no comparison between Model Y and F150 Lightning
Watts_Up
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Autopilot is set using the Gear Selector, Music can be performed with Voice commands, Phone can be performed with Voice commands, Heater also with voice commands. Works pretty well. I get the physical buttons and don't get me wrong, I hate the idea that Tesla is going to remove the stalks from the 3 & Y. But for the majority of tasks the Voice commands work pretty well.
...Tesla seats are comfortable...and the minimalist interior gives you lots of room...comfy and roomy..the definition of premium
I definitely agree with the “beater” truck concept. If Tesla builds the cyber truck to where I can hose out the inside and outside and it costs about $30k new, that’s a great utility vehicle.Exactly.
I posred this image before - an image from the web:
After getting used to the “barebone” simplicity of my M3 over the last 6 months, the Ford panel just looks needlessly “busy”. Probably no worse than trucks of this class from other manufacturers, but just seems like a poor UI. I’m sure one would get used to it quickly, but the simplicity of the Tesla interior and panel pleases me on a level that the Ford certainly does not.
We don’t “need” a truck, only because we have a 2006 Honda Ridgeline “beater” for hauling stuff. There’s something liberating in owning an old, cosmetically challenged truck that comes “pre-banged up”. But we do have a deposit down on the CyberTruck, and once it’s released we’ll have to see whether it makes any sense at all for our use case.
