The way new and used car prices are right now, Hertz can make money selling their used cars for more than new.
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Hertz buying 100,000 Teslas
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CyberGus
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All tanks always have a full complement of electrons. They just have to be given a little energy and segregated before they can make the car go.
Terminator857
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Can you elaborate on how Hertz is a competitor? Is Tesla in the rental car business? No. Is Hertz in the new car selling business? No. Is Hertz in the robotaxi business? No and neither is Tesla and Tesla won't be for many years.
I was assured 1m robotaxis were on the road by the end of 2020.
Terminator857
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If we assume something like that is remotely true then everyone Tesla sells to is a potential direct competitor.
Tesla was supposed to be bankwupt and long dead by now. Their nascent charging network was going to die with them.
The industry more or less got together to shun Tesla's SC network so they could go off and do just about nothing.
It's telling that the largest and best charging network (Tesla) is completely proprietary and works so well that other EV manufacturers are secretly hoping their customers can get access. Meanwhile, non-Tesla owners are still having basic handshaking problem with one-trick pony specialist outfits like Electrify America.
The industry more or less got together to shun Tesla's SC network so they could go off and do just about nothing.
It's telling that the largest and best charging network (Tesla) is completely proprietary and works so well that other EV manufacturers are secretly hoping their customers can get access. Meanwhile, non-Tesla owners are still having basic handshaking problem with one-trick pony specialist outfits like Electrify America.
The history is a little bit more complicated.
Search for CCS vs CHAdeMO. BTW, Tesla was part of the J1772 standards committee - but they decided not to use J1772. The standards were decided by SAE and not politicians.
You could say Japanese / US+German OEMs played a big part with Tesla just a small player at that time. We are talking about 2000s.
Buckminster
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henderrj
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I believe you are correct.
I'm assuming that Hertz will put in level 2 chargers, Tesla wall connectors likely, and the charge rate is pitifully slow. (Please bring back the high speed on board chargers tesla!) That means if you return it empty it'll be 8 hours before Hertz can rent it out again. That is lost revenue to them so it would seem that they would be fools not to charge you.
As to supercharging, I'm pretty sure that it will be included with the rental cost. I'm guessing they'll be charging on a per mile basis after all. Easy enough to include those costs in the rental charge.
Overall, this sounds like a really great business move for Hertz.
RobStark
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Since the DoJ requires Tesla to vet Elon Musk social media post with material content show me one post where Elon makes a factually incorrect material statement regarding Tesla's business. Not his opinions on Grimes music or whatever.Elon has never put out misleading statements on Twitter.
Uber drivers are going to have access to 50,000 Tesla vehicles for rent through Hertz
Uber announced a deal with Hertz for its drivers to have access to 50,000 Tesla vehicles through the rental company....electrek.co
And as I said...here is Tesla supplying vehicles to a rideshare competitor.
Hertz CEO Mark Fields confirms on CNN their Model 3s will not come with FSD. Only Standard Autopilot.
Tesla is not in the rideshare business.
Tesla Model 3 Hertz order could increase to 150,000 vehicles, no FSD included
Hertz could extend its Tesla order to 150,000 vehicles if the venture with Uber proves successful, according to the rideshare platform’s CEO Dara Khosrowshahi. Khosrowshahi said Uber was confident that 50,000 Tesla vehicles would be a popular choice for drivers and consumers once they enter the...
www.teslarati.com
Buckminster
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CyberGus
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It would make sense for Hertz to mix EVSEs with DCFC. Use the latter on the most depleted cars for a quicker turnaround.
There's no requirement that a rental car have a full tank or battery when received. I agree that it will make it easier on Hertz to have a financial incentive for renters to return the car with a non-depleted pack, but it will create a customer sat issue at punitive levels. For many, this will be their first EV experience.
henderrj
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It is going to be interesting to see how this plays out! I'm wondering if Tesla is going to use Hertz for their loaners now, rather than enterprise.
Buckminster
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when he says "its coming". Coming like, say, Sentry Mode came? Or coming like Robotaxi service came?
Buckminster
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Sorry, posted to wrong post.
Looks pretty much as expected. Wonder where/when they will introduce in the USA
First Tesla Superchargers for other automakers begin service, higher fees and membership offered
Tesla is launching a pilot program for non-Tesla electric vehicles to use its Supercharger network for the first time. The...
electrek.co
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