Higher value EVs not eligible for £3,000 PiCG (grant) anymore!

[jfrancis]

Yeah I had an "unexpected bill" every year with my BMW...

Here is all the servicing over 7 years - which doesn't include the last MOT which had to fix the suspension before it passed:

Type	Net Cost	VAT	Total Cost	Date	Car
Ipod			£509.00	26 October 2012	BMW
MOT			£54.00	14 June 2013	BMW
Puncture			£24.50	02 September 2013	BMW
Service			£618.19	02 October 2013	BMW
Service			£118.91	31 January 2014	BMW
MOT			£54.00	04 July 2014	BMW
Service + Battery			£526.74	02 March 2015	BMW
Window Motor			£328.00	17 April 2015	BMW
MOT+handles			£285.00	01 July 2015	BMW
Service			£142.57	11 August 2015	BMW
Boot + steering			£984.14	29 October 2015	BMW
Service + 4 Tyres			£1,487.98	10 December 2015	BMW
oil leak repair			£1,030.29	19 December 2015	BMW
Halo Light bulbs			£193.18	04 March 2016	BMW
Accident excess			£300.00	28 April 2016	BMW
Service			£344.99	11 May 2016	BMW
MOT + Door Handle			£153.45	08 July 2016	BMW
Fuel Leak			£308.40	05 August 2016	BMW
Crankshaft Pulley			£696.62	01 November 2016	BMW
MOT			£50.00	03 July 2017	BMW
Air Con	£58.22	£11.64​	£69.86	01 August 2017	BMW
Major Service	£315.88	£63.18​	£379.06	01 August 2017	BMW
Brake Fluid	£65.00	£13.00​	£78.00	01 August 2017	BMW
2 Rear Tyres + rebalance			£557.85	19 August 2017	BMW
Alloy wheel Weld			£95.00	25 August 2017	BMW
Alloy Wheel Refirb			£408.00	01 September 2017	BMW
Front Brakes			£444.72	15 January 2018	BMW
Aircon Condenser			£576.40	20 April 2018	BMW
Oil change + fix diesel in oil			£1,391.88	28 April 2018	BMW
Coolant leak			£342.01	12 June 2018	BMW
MOT			£50.00	06 July 2018	BMW
2 Front Tyres			£465.48	30 July 2018	BMW
Rear Brakes + Disks			£291.98	17 September 2018	BMW

Oil change and diesel fix cost you this much? Wow.

 

[Irata]

Haha, yea I know what you mean. I do have a little bit of FOMO as I feel they will keep updating the cars with newer features and changes to the car.

I thought the same, but then by waiting forever as it keeps changing, you also miss out.

 

[jfrancis]

I thought the same, but then by waiting forever as it keeps changing, you also miss out.

That is true, I am just gonna have to hope the changes will be mainly adoptable with the over the air updates and be happy with the shape of the car etc.

 

[Alan J]

Tesla appear to be covering the £2,500 Gov Grant for Inventory Cars delivered in March, the usual end of Quarter push but maybe also an opportunity for some who maybe feel that they were about to lose out.

 

[skippyinspace]

Tesla appear to be covering the £2,500 Gov Grant for Inventory Cars delivered in March, the usual end of Quarter push but maybe also an opportunity for some who maybe feel that they were about to lose out.

I got a text from Tesla this morning

quote

the plug in Car Gerant threshold has changed. If you missed out, Tesla will cover £2500 for new Model 3 orders delivered before April 1sr 2021. Please respond yes for a call back and to explore inventory.

end quote

 

[skippyinspace]

I thought the same, but then by waiting forever as it keeps changing, you also miss out.

And then they reduce the grant level and threshold and remove the interest-free finance (Scotland)

 

[gangzoom]

Used iPaces are now under £40k, they seem like bargains at that kind of price versus new EVs!

 

[Alan J]

And then they reduce the grant level and threshold and remove the interest-free finance (Scotland)

You can still register your interest, it might well be funded again in April.

 

[bobbychariot]

Does the grant only apply for cars ordered before the cut off?
Or do they physically have to be delivered to qualify?

 

[GeorgeSymonds]

Does the grant only apply for cars ordered before the cut off?
Or do they physically have to be delivered to qualify?

The grant is gone, but Tesla are offering to fund it (or £2500 of it) for a while and knowing the way Tesla work, they'll want delivery by the end of the month and then it will be gone. At the end of next quarter they'll think of something else to push for quarter end deliveries..

 

[bobbychariot]

The grant is gone, but Tesla are offering to fund it (or £2500 of it) for a while and knowing the way Tesla work, they'll want delivery by the end of the month and then it will be gone. At the end of next quarter they'll think of something else to push for quarter end deliveries..

So if someone ordered before the grant was removed they would no longer qualify?

 

[Jason71]

Used iPaces are now under £40k, they seem like bargains at that kind of price versus new EVs!

yes but what does a new I-Pace actually cost. Are there not some deep discounts on offer? in which case 40K may not be as much of a fall in value as it seems.
Was it not a bit overpriced to begin with when compared to an M3?
Having said that its notable that a 2019 I-Pace with similar mileage is now worth slightly less than an M3 LR the same age. so the depreciation of the I pace has lost between 15-25K in value dependant on how much of a discount you got but the M3 has only lost about £6K. based on Autotrader private sale prices. That's hell of a difference. There are currently also more than 3 times the number of I-Pace for sale as there are M3. So that level of depreciation is likely to continue.
BTW until Apply buys Jaguar its I-Pace not iPace

 

[dakaix]

So if someone ordered before the grant was removed they would no longer qualify?

When the grant was changed last year I had an order outstanding, and it transpired that Tesla applies for the grant as soon as you complete all of the paperwork in your Tesla Account.

Once the grant application has been made it's guaranteed for a period (can't remember if it's 6 or 9 months), to account for manufacturing delays. Anyone that has an existing order shouldn't be affected - as long as you don't make any changes that require the grant application to be changed (i.e. changing models).

 

[skippyinspace]

You can still register your interest, it might well be funded again in April.

Got this when I registered

Applications for this scheme are currently closed. By submitting an online enquiry you have been placed on an ‘expression of interest’ list and we will contact you if and when the scheme opens for applications in 2021-22, at which point we will know the terms and conditions.

Ive added the bolding to the text

 

[Alan J]

Got this when I registered

Applications for this scheme are currently closed. By submitting an online enquiry you have been placed on an ‘expression of interest’ list and we will contact you if and when the scheme opens for applications in 2021-22, at which point we will know the terms and conditions.

Ive added the bolding to the text

Let's hope they don't follow the UK Gov lead and introduce a Vehicle Price Cap.

 

[Yev000]

Oil change and diesel fix cost you this much? Wow.

Diesel fix was replacing spark plugs within the exaust system - thats how the DPD filter system works - burns the particulates to ash so it passes through the filter. They were not igniting the fuel, so it spilled over into the engine oil. My oil level was going up, not down.

So yeah it involved storipping the entire exaust system out and replacing 3 of the 4 spark plugs in it, then changing the oil - again - because it had diesel in it.

 

[jfrancis]

Diesel fix was replacing spark plugs within the exaust system - thats how the DPD filter system works - burns the particulates to ash so it passes through the filter. They were not igniting the fuel, so it spilled over into the engine oil. My oil level was going up, not down.

So yeah it involved storipping the entire exaust system out and replacing 3 of the 4 spark plugs in it, then changing the oil - again - because it had diesel in it.

Well ok that is a lot of work, the good news I guess is that you do not have any of the oil issues or engine with the Tesla.

 

[HenryT]

Diesel fix was replacing spark plugs within the exaust system - thats how the DPD filter system works - burns the particulates to ash so it passes through the filter. They were not igniting the fuel, so it spilled over into the engine oil. My oil level was going up, not down.

So yeah it involved storipping the entire exaust system out and replacing 3 of the 4 spark plugs in it, then changing the oil - again - because it had diesel in it.

That story puts a shudder down my spine as I had exactly the same problem with a Jaguar XF. Had to have two additional oil changes at £100 a throw because of DPF contamination. Apparently, the car didn't like my short commute to work.

 

[CaptainBurrito]

Let's hope they don't follow the UK Gov lead and introduce a Vehicle Price Cap.

I've contacted Home Energy Scotland / EST about the EV loan and suggested that they make it available for any car eligible for green plates.

 

[a1psx]

Text this morning from Tesla reminding me that if I don't take delivery by 31st March the price adjustment will be lost (picking up on 31st - lets hope the trains are running)