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danielwai, From DITB post above, recopy here: SAE J1772 (Type 1) to IEC 62196-2(Type 2) Extension Cord 32A for EV Charging in Type 2 Connector Cable from EV Charging (EVSE) for Sale
Chargers in the car support three phase. Max 16A per phase, and max 40A per charger. So, if you use public, non-Tesla, IEC62196 single phase you will get 16A single charger, or 32A dual charger.
The Tesla Wall Connectors are modified to provide the power over all three phase lines, even for single phase boxes. So, you'll get 40A from those even with a single charger.
Side tracking, why are the EV chargers sprinkled around HK all 1 phase 32A? How do we know which ones are 2 or 3 phases? Shouldn't they install more multi phase chargers (perhaps other EVs can take all 32A on a single phase?)
Is there a simple way to tell if a plug is 32A or 16A or how many phase? There is a blue color type 2 plug at work, there seems to be no branding. Is there any way to tell what type of power it supplies? My 85D won't be arriving for a while but if it is a 1phase 32A then I should upgrade to dual charger.
I cannot recommend anyone NOT to get dual chargers, no matter what your current needs are. You never know where you will end up, who will buy your car (and want dual), or what - dual just gives you more options, doesn't cost a lot when installing it, while retrofit costs about 2.5 times as much.
I get 95 km/h charging with 32A/3P (Mennekes type-2), the fastest AC charging possible with the Model S. This is using the bug standard thick blue cable that comes with the car (Hong Kong deliveries)
For ANY charger, there should be an approval plate somewhere - saying how much power is going in and out. It could say for instance "220V 3~ 32A" or "380V 3~ 32A" (don't know which of these are correct, as 380V is really when you use two phases together, rather than each phase to 0).
1) Standard 13A
2) Medium IEC 62196
3) Medium SAE J 1772
4) Medium Other – I don’t know what other stands for
5) CHAdeMO
I'm also new will offer what I know so far.
1) 13A you can find lots of these in public carparks, slow charging rate as charging current must be limited to about 10A for safety (heat) reasons therefore you get about 10km/hour. The charging cable (by Mennekes) isn't free, get it from Tesla at $3,700 on delivery
2) IEC62196 Type 2 (mode 3) charging is available at some gov't parking, it's single phase at 32A. The cable required comes with Tesla on delivery in the trunk. This is so called medium rate charging you get about 32km/hr approximately. I tried this at Murray Road Wilson (gov't) parking but I forgot to record down the charging rate.
3) J1772, don't know much about this I think this is for Japanese EV, presumably not very common. I haven't seen this in gov't parking yet.
4) medium other. ..I don't know!
5) CHAdeMO is again Japanese standard, available at some private estate charging spot, you need to purchase adapter from Tesla, is it out for HK yet I don't know Tesla Gear Shop CHAdeMO Adapter
am sure other experienced owners can update/correct this!
Thanks.
Will I get a quicker charging for IEC62196 with dual charger equipped? It is anyway single phase and below 40A.
I get 40Amps with my single charger with an average charge rate of 40-45kmh, using my single phase Wall Connector.
FYI Japan has single and three phases in households but single phase is by far popular. Tesla cars support only single phase, and we can use US Wall Connector as-is.
I thought so, as your cars follow the USA version. Which is why I didn't already get a ChaDeMo adapter in Japan for my car in Hong Kong (it wouldn't fit). I heard that ChaDeMo isn't more of a "standard" as it depends what car and what charger brand, they are not all compatible. This is why superchargers are so brilliant: They are the fastest, but also the easiest AND the cheapest (to use). I wonder if Tesla Motors will ever license them for third party use, ie some company/store/parking that want to offer supercharging but have the cost covered? Or a company, to charge their own fleet only, so it only works with certain registered cars (their own cars for instance)
Hong Kong, Australian and European cars support three phase charging. Each car has a charger capable of 3x16A maximum, while a dual charger installation allows 3x16A x 2. This is all fine when using either three phase, or the Tesla Motors Wall Charger, while single-phase third party chargers only will charge one of the three phases (meaning maximum 1 x 16A for single charger, 2 x 16A for dual charger, the other two phases not being used).
Do I understand correctly as below :
1) 3 phase 16A supply with single charger is 50% quicker than 1 phase 16A with dual charger
2) if the supply is single phase with whatever ampere (not Tesla Wall Charger), there is no different for car come with single or dual charger.
3) there is no increase in charging speed if the ampere is 16A or 32A (not Tesla Wall Charger)
Thanks.