How to turn off emergency braking when rolling?

[izzzyyd]

After a few updates now if I have the seatbelt off and I roll slow speed coming to a stop the car just slams on the brakes and puts the car in park…

I can’t even park the car with the seatbelt off anyone know how to turn it off if possible?

Car thinks it’s rolling away and puts it in park lol

 

[ucmndd]

You can’t. Put your seatbelt on. Pretty simple.

 

[izzzyyd]

You can’t. Put your seatbelt on. Pretty simple.

yeah simply dumb that you can’t roll the car in your own driveway lol.

 

[Gauss Guzzler]

You can drive without the seatbelt as much as you like, but if you’re going slow and get out of the seat, it will shift into park.

Nothing has recently changed with this feature as far as I know, so if yours is going into Park while you’re properly seated, it may be that your seat sensor has failed.

 

[izzzyyd]

You can drive without the seatbelt as much as you like, but if you’re going slow and get out of the seat, it will shift into park.

Nothing has recently changed with this feature as far as I know, so if yours is going into Park while you’re properly seated, it may be that your seat sensor has failed.

Yeah I’m still in my seat it was fine before last 2 updates or so

 

[izzzyyd]

Also how would the seat sensor fail that means auto pilot nothing will work… everything works fine

 

[Jo060]

Sounds like user error. I roll mine, in drive, buckle off, door slightly ajar weekly. Maybe it can tell how far the door is open?

 

[MikeJay]

Yeah I’m still in my seat it was fine before last 2 updates or so

I have had the EXACT same experience. Definite change over last few months updates. And if you’re rolling trying to buckle up, WHAM, it thows it into park nearly causing an accident.

For the peanut gallery, thanks. I’ve been driving at a high level for over 15 years so I don’t need your safety process. I’m quite comfortable in mine and Tesla at minimum should allow this default to be turned off.

 

[Lindenwood]

I guess we are confused. I also occasionally put my seatbelt on as I am rolling through the parking lot, and have never had any issues.

Do you so regularly need to move your car with the seatbelt off and the door open to the point that this feature is now a significant inconvenience? Or could you spend an extra few seconds closing the door and buckling the belt and go about your day?

 

[ucmndd]

Or could you spend an extra few seconds closing the door and buckling the belt and go about your day?

Bro, this guy has been driving at a “high level” for 15 years. Don’t even front. We got a pro up in here.

 

[izzzyyd]

I guess we are confused. I also occasionally put my seatbelt on as I am rolling through the parking lot, and have never had any issues.

Do you so regularly need to move your car with the seatbelt off and the door open to the point that this feature is now a significant inconvenience? Or could you spend an extra few seconds closing the door and buckling the belt and go about your day?

No sorry I drive doorless and when I arrive home and back into my driveway I make sure I stop the car fully unbuckle my belt and open the doors fully ajar so they can smash into my garage

 

[davewill]

You can drive without the seatbelt as much as you like, but if you’re going slow and get out of the seat, it will shift into park.

Nothing has recently changed with this feature as far as I know, so if yours is going into Park while you’re properly seated, it may be that your seat sensor has failed.

I had a bad seat sensor. After stopping at the mailbox on my way home, I wouldn't bother with my seatbelt, but there's a stop sign between my mailbox and my house. The car would sometimes go into Park when I stopped, and I'd have to enter my pin and shift into D again. I'd have the same problem if I came to a stop while pulling into my garage.

Wearing my seatbelt was the workaround until it got fixed.

 

[gearchruncher]

And if you're wondering why this behavior is not a user option, it's because of liability.

Car puts itself into park at 3 MPH when the driver doesn't have a seatbelt on? Minor annoyance for the driver.

Car doesn't put itself into park when you get out and it rolls into the street and kills someone? Major lawsuit for the Manufacturer. It's happened already with Mercedes and their sprinters.

From a human factors standpoint, it also needs to work this way on a Tesla. Without the whole start the engine, put it in gear, put it in park, stop the engine routine, Tesla was able to make the car just work with the only action being putting it in drive, which can be pretty magical. When done, you can just undo the seatbelt, open the door, and get out. As long as any of your cars allow the auto park behavior, having some of your cars do this and some not is just really bad design. A driver could be used to the auto park behavior and then drive a car that has this turned off and the car would creep away as they get out. You need consistency in behavior in your products, especially around automation like this.

 

[izzzyyd]

I had a bad seat sensor. After stopping at the mailbox on my way home, I wouldn't bother with my seatbelt, but there's a stop sign between my mailbox and my house. The car would sometimes go into Park when I stopped, and I'd have to enter my pin and shift into D again. I'd have the same problem if I came to a stop while pulling into my garage.

Wearing my seatbelt was the workaround until it got fixed.

Did you have any errors show up that the seat sensor had failed? I mean my auto pilot works everything works it doesn’t show up red in the seating chart icon, no error messages about failed sensor

 

[izzzyyd]

And if you're wondering why this behavior is not a user option, it's because of liability.

Car puts itself into park at 3 MPH when the driver doesn't have a seatbelt on? Minor annoyance for the driver.

Car doesn't put itself into park when you get out and it rolls into the street and kills someone? Major lawsuit for the Manufacturer. It's happened already with Mercedes and their sprinters.

From a human factors standpoint, it also needs to work this way on a Tesla. Without the whole start the engine, put it in gear, put it in park, stop the engine routine, Tesla was able to make the car just work with the only action being putting it in drive, which can be pretty magical. When done, you can just undo the seatbelt, open the door, and get out. As long as any of your cars allow the auto park behavior, having some of your cars do this and some not is just really bad design. A driver could be used to the auto park behavior and then drive a car that has this turned off and the car would creep away as they get out. You need consistency in behavior in your products, especially around automation like this.

I mean it’s fine when nobody is in the car I think that’s the intent of these technologies when car rolls away with no one in it.

If you’re in the car door closed rolling away auto stop should be disabled.

I’d rather have auto stop when I’m about to back into a wall lol

 

[davewill]

Did you have any errors show up that the seat sensor had failed? I mean my auto pilot works everything works it doesn’t show up red in the seating chart icon, no error messages about failed sensor

Nope, no errors or other indications. For a while I thought it was some weird software glitch, but it turned out to be the seat sensor.

 

[gearchruncher]

Did you have any errors show up that the seat sensor had failed?

There are a lot of diagnostics in service mode, as well as seeing error codes you don't normally see as a user. I'd go into that mode and see if you see anything.

 

[gearchruncher]

If you’re in the car door closed rolling away auto stop should be disabled.

How does the car know you're in it?
It uses the seat belt and the seat sensor.
This is documented in the manual.

 

[Lindenwood]

I mean it’s fine when nobody is in the car I think that’s the intent of these technologies when car rolls away with no one in it.

If you’re in the car door closed rolling away auto stop should be disabled.

The OP was talking about having no seat belt AND the door open. I would expect the car is doing this to avoid someone accidentally falling out while trying to move the car, or injuring their leg by accidentally pushing the pedal with one leg out.

I am still having a hard time understanding why the OP’s behavior is necessary.

 

[izzzyyd]

The OP was talking about having no seat belt AND the door open. I would expect the car is doing this to avoid someone accidentally falling out while trying to move the car, or injuring their leg by accidentally pushing the pedal with one leg out.

I am still having a hard time understanding why the OP’s behavior is necessary.

I am OP go read OP take your meds sir, what are you even talking about? I just said seat belt off never were doors mentioned.

You must be confusing this thread for another lol