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As a note Mazda is still a relatively small manufacturer. It spend a considerable amount of capital in its scalable ICE RWD platform which will be hybrid capable. Not a wise choice in retrospect.Danger of building compliance EVs in 2022: Mazda sells single digits of MX-30 in July
Mazda has reported its sale numbers for July, which exhibit an overall decline compared to a year ago. What’s even...electrek.co
It's frustrating because Mazda builds good, competitive, well-priced ICE cars that often punch above their price class in driving experience and premium style. I would like to see them put the same effort into EV's. The MX-30 was laughably out of date and uncompetitive before it even launched.
RX-8 is a sweet handling sports car with a surprisingly usable back seat, as sports cars go. I love the RX-8 for what it is but I can't fathom why I'd want suicide doors on a crossover.
My mom (72) has it and she loves it. She only drives about 30 to 40 miles a day max. And now she does not have to go to the gas stations.Yeah Agree, its the ideal grandpartents run around tbh.
I had an i3 before the M3LR. The i3 had the advantages of actually quick acceleration below 60 mph, rear wheel drive, an excellent interior, carbon fiber lightness, and very nice interior materials plus the range extender. BMW sold over 10,000 in USA in 2015. Most were sold in Europe.This car wasn’t intended to be a moneymaker for Mazda. It’s simply a car created to get EV tax credits, nothing more. 500 units is hardly a bump in any automaker’s annual sales report, even for a small company like Mazda. They most likely LOSE money for each one sold.
Compliance car like the Fiat 500e, Mitsubishi MiEV and so many under-100 mile range cars out there during the early 2010’s. Come to think of it, there already is another car just like this one (suicide rear doors, boxy little body, short range EV) made by a certain German automaker, except that company at least had the decency of putting in a gasoline generator in some trims.
@DrChaos Hopefully nobody called the i3 a compliance car. It wasn't, and it was much better than any compliance car.I had an i3 before the M3LR. The i3 had the advantages of actually quick acceleration below 60 mph, rear wheel drive, an excellent interior, carbon fiber lightness, and very nice interior materials plus the range extender. BMW sold over 10,000 in USA in 2015. Most were sold in Europe.
Worldwide, over 220,000 i3 were sold cumulatively, much better than the MX30 will ever do.
Rather decent for a 'compliance car'.
i3 succeeded despite bmw's efforts to kill it...
The i3 was much much cheaper in practice as it had subsidized leases. I bought a used i3 ReX with under 11,000 miles and 2 years old for $24k. S is a much larger and different kind of car. Used prices were $70K-80K.@DrChaos Hopefully nobody called the i3 a compliance car. It wasn't, and it was much better than any compliance car.
It was however overpriced and under-batteried, and got wildly outclassed by the Model S. Sure the i3 was a little cheaper, but not enough, the S was a better value despite being more expensive.
I remember my coworker got some kind of crazy cheap lease deal for the i3 when it first came out around 2015. I think it was like $100 a month.The i3 was much much cheaper in practice as it had subsidized leases. I bought a used i3 ReX with under 11,000 miles and 2 years old for $24k. S is a much larger and different kind of car. Used prices were $70K-80K.
They sacked that CEO (behind the i3 and i8) and the team left to work for other car companiesThe 'i' division was thinking far ahead in 2011-2012, but it's very likely internal BMW politics prevented it from thriving.