They do not exist in inventory cars. :sob: This hereby ends my problems-of-the-privileged post for today.
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SomeJoe7777
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Archduke
Member
I picked up my new Model S P100D on Saturday with the Ultra-White Premium Seats. I thought the fabric was going to be perforated and that the seats would be air-conditioned like in the Model S. But that is not the case. My delivery specialist was confused as well. She went away for a moment and came back saying that Tesla formerly offered air-conditioned seats on the Model S, but that it had been discontinued--which made no sense at all to me. Does anyone know if Tesla ever offered A/C seats in the Model S previously? Are they going to be offering it in the future (March 2017?)?
Gizmotoy
Active Member
It's not entirely clear to me what your ordered ("I thought the seats would be air-conditioned like in the Model S"), but they should be ventilated in the Model S if you ordered both the Premium Seats and the Premium Upgrades Package. If you selected both options, I think you need to talk with someone higher-up with Tesla.
Archduke
Member
At the time the P100D was released they stated that only the black and tan premium seats would be perforated and ventilated, but then when they released the same seats for the 90D (last month?) they stated all would then be ventilated. There were some rumors that the perforation was causing issues with the vegan leather but they must have figured that out.
Archduke
Member
Interesting. I'm going to have to send an email to my Sales Advisor to ask why my car didn't get the ventilated seats since it went into production 11.3.2016.
I found the post when it was changed and it was from Nov 12th... looks like you missed it by a couple weeks.
Your sales person is confused in a few ways, but it's a bit understandable.
Tesla first began offering ultra white in the S only on P100D back in ~August. For a period of time (~6-8 weeks), even if you ordered the premium package, the seats were non-perforated and non-vented, whereas if you ordered black or tan and premium you got ventilated seats. At some point (apologies, I don't have the exact date), Tesla increased the cost of premium (I think $500), and began offering ultra white ventilated seats. There is one report on TMC of someone who just took delivery of their P100D with ultra white and didn't get ventilated seats. I inquired if the car had been built a few months ago, and it turns out they had postponed their build, and as a result had been grandfathered to the previous price book. But this also meant that they ended up with non-ventilated seats, which came as a surprise to them and their DS.
If you order a P100D today (or any S as of last week) and select ultra white and premium, you'll get ventilated seats. Was your car produced a few months ago, by chance? Or did you delay your order?
Second thing: The seats are NOT air conditioned unlike other manufacturers. They only blow ambient air, and not very well imho.
Andrew
theslimshadyist
Active Member
I have the Premium Package. I do not have ventilated seats.
That's odd. I have an AP2 P100D and my seats are ventilated.
This is correct--it appears the first Ultra White seats installed on the initial batch of MS's was not ventilated. They now are.
hill
high fiber member
Premium is now required for ventilated seats. Non premium are not perforated. If you look closely, you can even see the difference on the configurator. I just ordered mine non-premium because I thought the perforations would create cleaning challenges on the white. It's correct that early P100d were not ventilated. I saw one at sc and really liked it.
alseTrick
Active Member
I thought it had been said that the ventilated seats suck air in, not blow air out.
Archduke
Member
Well...I shouldn't complain too much because 1) I have a beautiful Tesla P100D, and 2) I did at least get the capability for fully self-driving vehicle. I can live with the seats as is. Thanks for the information!
It was my Delivery Specialist who was confused. She was sweet, but...yeah...she didn't seem 110% familiar with the car. When I asked about the ventilated seats (because I could see that the seats were not perforated), she had me pressing the button for the seat heaters, and I was thinking "Ventilation is *not* coming on because---hello!---these seats aren't perforated."
My car confirmed on October 4, went into production November 3, 2016, and was finally delivered 12.17.2016.
You make me so much happier by pointing out that the seats are not air conditioned but merely blow ambient air around. Thank you for helping me feel better about not getting the ventilated seats!
I think it was summarized as "the ventilated seats suck".
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