S4WRXTTCS
Well-Known Member
What I've seen in my own usage of FSD Beta are clear failures well before my safety or the safety of anyone else is in danger. The only potential exception is some of the sudden jerks in the steering could happen when I'm purposely holding looser than I normally would (like a corner)
In fact I think the biggest safety issue are things that could be easily fixed. Like having the option to have a more prominent report button that's easier to hit, and any steering take over should cancel out of FSD completely. It shouldn't leave TACC enabled.
There are things I do which I feel increase safety.
I don't have any question that this whole thing will come tumbling down. I think it's exciting, but we simply don't live in a nation that values the good of the whole versus the lives of the few.
You simply can't turn an L2 system in an L4 system that is 10x safer than human beings without being 100x worse than human beings in the beginning. You rely on human beings to take over during the growth from 100x worse to 10x better, but humans are fallible. The accidents won't happen in frequency at 100x worse, but once you start getting around the 4x worse mark people aren't going to be able to sustain vigilance.
What's really going to suck is it will be taken from us just as it starts to become useful.
Maybe Elon will have a crafty solution. The Safety Score illusion was certainly evidence of his craftiness.
In fact I think the biggest safety issue are things that could be easily fixed. Like having the option to have a more prominent report button that's easier to hit, and any steering take over should cancel out of FSD completely. It shouldn't leave TACC enabled.
There are things I do which I feel increase safety.
- I don't worry too much about reporting things. We only get 5 snapshots so its not a big deal if something gets missed.
- I take over quickly in a very picky kind of way. It either does it right or I take over. I certainly won't let it take a 90 degree corner too fast as its obvious before the turn even starts.
- I don't use it with other people in the car unless they're perfectly okay with silence.
- I don't take videos of my drive. I thought about it because a cursing FSD cynic would be more interesting than a FSD optimist bro talking. But, I still think that would be distracting.
- I don't listen to music as its an emotional manipulator. Although I suppose it could be used to boost concentration.
- I made the decision not to use it anywhere where I wasn't familiar with the road, and situations that develop on that road.
I don't have any question that this whole thing will come tumbling down. I think it's exciting, but we simply don't live in a nation that values the good of the whole versus the lives of the few.
You simply can't turn an L2 system in an L4 system that is 10x safer than human beings without being 100x worse than human beings in the beginning. You rely on human beings to take over during the growth from 100x worse to 10x better, but humans are fallible. The accidents won't happen in frequency at 100x worse, but once you start getting around the 4x worse mark people aren't going to be able to sustain vigilance.
What's really going to suck is it will be taken from us just as it starts to become useful.
Maybe Elon will have a crafty solution. The Safety Score illusion was certainly evidence of his craftiness.