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Is there a way to have the alarm go off if somebody tries to enter the car if you have Sentry Mode?

spoon

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A thief in my apartment's garage attempted to enter my Model X, Sentry mode captured him perfectly but I noticed my car alarm didn't go off when he tried to open the doors. Is there a way to make it so it goes off if somebody tries to enter my car without a FOB?
 

Akikiki

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A thief in my apartment's garage attempted to enter my Model X, Sentry mode captured him perfectly but I noticed my car alarm didn't go off when he tried to open the doors. Is there a way to make it so it goes off if somebody tries to enter my car without a FOB?
What you are asking for is not reasonable.
 

TechVP

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Not exactly what you are asking for... but if your thief took the next step... there is this:
Model X Enhanced Anti-Theft

Think parking on SF streets... if a cabin window breaks - or even an arm reaches in when the window(s) are down, the alarm will activate.
Mine is quite sensitive. Perhaps overly so.
To note, you need to disable the alarm if you let passengers stay in the car w/o the FOB. If the car auto locks... the system arms in about a minute...
If that alarm fires with the wife or mother in-law inside ... you'll loose your Tesla cool in microseconds.

-TechVP
 
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Akikiki

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@infiniteloop, really? Can't you imagine what it would be like at night where many cars are parked, in parking lots or large garages if every car's alarm is triggered by some teens walking by and pulling handles for fun on every car? That's why its not reasonable.
 

infiniteloop

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@infiniteloop, really? Can't you imagine what it would be like at night where many cars are parked, in parking lots or large garages if every car's alarm is triggered by some teens walking by and pulling handles for fun on every car? That's why its not reasonable.

Well first of all your original comment was unhelpful and rude as OP was just asking a question.

And second of all no I don't think being able to adjust the sensitivity of an alarm system is unreasonable.
 

Akikiki

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I don't think that adding an exterior trigger than anyone - child, teen or adult could walk by and cause a caustic alarm go off in the dead of night is useful.

And no disrespect to you or the OP. You are entitled to think I was rude. My conscious is clear that I was only being brief. Not everything here requires a thousand words of explanation.
 

infiniteloop

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I don't think that adding an exterior trigger than anyone - child, teen or adult could walk by and cause a caustic alarm go off in the dead of night is useful.

And no disrespect to you or the OP. You are entitled to think I was rude. My conscious is clear that I was only being brief. Not everything here requires a thousand words of explanation.

Thank you for the clarification. I think you may be misunderstanding what OP is asking for. They are asking if the alarm can be set off when somebody attempts to open the door (not when they walk by).

It's not unreasonable to ask as many alarm systems have adjustable settings.
 

mxnym

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Thank you for the clarification. I think you may be misunderstanding what OP is asking for. They are asking if the alarm can be set off when somebody attempts to open the door (not when they walk by).

It's not unreasonable to ask as many alarm systems have adjustable settings.
It appears you two were online at the same time and you deleted the post Akikiki responded to upstream, but in any case, before your above comment, you replied to this quote (emphasis mine), which implies you'd already seen it:
@infiniteloop, really? Can't you imagine what it would be like at night where many cars are parked, in parking lots or large garages if every car's alarm is triggered by some teens walking by and pulling handles for fun on every car? That's why its not reasonable.
Seems to me like Akikiki previously demonstrated an understanding of what OP was asking for perfectly and explained why it didn't make sense as well. Some aftermarket alarms may go off when a door handle is pulled or a car is bumped, yet there may well be regulations that prevent OEM ones from doing the same. In any case, the concern regarding the proposed functionality is equally valid, we don't need more noise pollution, and IF the noise was going to scare off a potential thief, it would do so just as well if it didn't occur until they actually got the door open.
 

tps5352

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Here is a table I made to try to make sense of the various security settings on the car's touchscreen and the Tesla App's "Controls" screen:


AFAIK, the standard security system (that comes with applicable North American cars), has an alarm that goes off if a locked door or lift-gate is otherwise opened--presumably after a window is smashed; but the window breaking itself does not trigger the alarm, correct?

With the optional Enhanced Anti-Theft System TechVP mentions the alarm also goes off if the car is tilted (e.g., an attempt to tow is made) or if something/anything moves inside the cabin. As TechVP noted in Post #6, above, the system is apparently pretty sensitive. So flying glass might set it off; certainly a moving arm through an open window (I tried that!) or a body inside will certainly set it off. It's apparently so sensitive that Tesla engineers have Cabin Overheat Protection turn off when the Tilt / Intrusion setting (the EATS system on-off control setting) is turned on. My table analyzes the relationships among the various security control settings on the car's touchscreen and on the Tesla (phone) App.
 
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dannycamps

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I'll add a little to this.

I recently wanted to show my brother the Bach music that plays when the alarm is set off. I sent him to my locked car and told him to activate the alarm. He was able to get the alarm to trigger eventually by rocking the car and kicking the tires.

At no point did he open a door or the liftgate so there must be some kind of tilt detection system in play.
 
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tps5352

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I'll add a little to this.

I recently wanted to show my brother the Bach music that plays when the alarm is set off. I sent him to my locked car and told him to activate the alarm. He was able to get the alarm to trigger eventually by rocking the car and kicking the tires.

At no point did he open a door or the liftgate so there must be some kind of tilt detection system in play.

Interesting. So, two issues:
  1. Setting off the alarm without opening a door/lift-gate.

    Was this is with a U.S. car (the 2019 Model S?) that had not had the Enhanced Anti-Theft System installed? Or did you install the EATS?

    If not, was it purchased used and was EATS installed by a previous owner?

    Do you have the Tilt / Intrusion control on the Safety & Security screen? If so, you have the EATS.

  2. The Bach music.

    I have heard of it but am unfamiliar with the music thing. When I tested my alarm without the EATS installed, I don't recall any music. (But I shut it off pretty darn quickly so maybe I missed it.)

    When I tested it again after the EATS was installed, I did hear something unusual playing in the background, but with the loud alarm I couldn't identify it. And, again, I quickly shut it off.

    So I guess the music plays even with just the standard anti-theft system?

    I'm still learning about these security systems.

 
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