There’s no fixing those who hide behind empty childish slogans oblivious to real facts and evidence (eg the NYT article just posted) and ignorant of international law. They simply take comfort in their slogans and scarves which is the extent of their thought process.
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Israel/Hamas conflict
- Thread starter Buckminster
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About time...
Never realized what a scum sucking organization Harvard is....zero ethics...only protect their own...if their own is politically correct
Claudine Gay resigns as Harvard University president
The university's top official resigns amid allegations of plagiarism and criticism over her comments on antisemitism.
www.bbc.co.uk
Never realized what a scum sucking organization Harvard is....zero ethics...only protect their own...if their own is politically correct
They can run, but they can't hide for long.
Hamas deputy leader Saleh al-Arouri killed in Beirut blast
Hamas deputy leader Saleh al-Arouri killed in Beirut blast
So you can bet he will keep the war going as long as he can to try and remain in power.
During the last election (2022) Netanyahu’s Likud got 23%....so not a lot of difference. Also people don’t vote for the man only the party...so it could have more support.
After the war...public opinion might be different....nobody quits after an opinion poll..hell, these days you don’t quit after an exit poll..
navguy12
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From an editorial in yesterday’s Toronto Star:
It’s not entirely cut and dried....Israel’s Parliament is supreme...in other words it’s will can’t really be contested over the long term, eventually the Parliament has to succeed....and the Prime Minister is only part of the Parliament and his power only comes if he can muster enough support to form a majority in every bit of legislation to be passed. At the moment there is a unity Government in this time of crisis.....but each member of the opposition will have conditions for joining...some it might be purely out of the desire to contribute in the war...others will demand political capital as part of a deal...that may include the controversial legislation over the courts. After the war...who knowsFrom an editorial in yesterday’s Toronto Star:
Israel’s talk of expanding war to Lebanon alarms U.S.
U.S. officials are concerned that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu may see an expanded fight in Lebanon as key to his political survival amid domestic criticism of his government’s failure to prevent Hamas’s Oct. 7 attack, which killed an estimated 1,200 people and resulted in some 240 hostages being taken to Gaza.
U.S. officials are concerned that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu may see an expanded fight in Lebanon as key to his political survival amid domestic criticism of his government’s failure to prevent Hamas’s Oct. 7 attack, which killed an estimated 1,200 people and resulted in some 240 hostages being taken to Gaza.
Jigglypuff
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navguy12
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Jigglypuff
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Our defence secretary, Grant Shapps, squaring up to the Houthis, in a frankly very un-British show of aggression:
"...if this continues, as it did yesterday, there will be consequences. And I’m going to leave it at that"
www.independent.co.uk
"...if this continues, as it did yesterday, there will be consequences. And I’m going to leave it at that"
British and US warships repel largest Houthi attack in Red Sea
The defence secretary, Grant Shapps, suggests further action against the Yemen-based Houthis is on the cards as he says ‘watch this space’
www.independent.co.uk
It's unbelievable how much deference and grace the Houthis have been given by the US, UK and our partners. We are wasting millions of dollars using expensive missile systems against cheap drones, when our militaries could easily target their launch sites and logistics centers with less risk and the same cost.Our defence secretary, Grant Shapps, squaring up to the Houthis, in a frankly very un-British show of aggression:
"...if this continues, as it did yesterday, there will be consequences. And I’m going to leave it at that"
British and US warships repel largest Houthi attack in Red Sea
The defence secretary, Grant Shapps, suggests further action against the Yemen-based Houthis is on the cards as he says ‘watch this space’
After everything we have seen this past year of Iran supporting Houthis, Hamas, Hezbollah and Russia creating conflict in Europe and the Middle East - I really don't understand why the Biden administration took the Houthis off the terrorism list and still trying to work with Iran on the fools errand started by the Obama administration.
The path to peace does not run through Tehran or their terrorist proxies like Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis IMO.
Drone launch sites could be anywhere and are easily hidden. Unlike ballistic missiles, drone launchers are also very simple. Some drones launch directly from the ground while others have very simple rails they launch from. If the drones being used against ships are the same as the Iranian drones the Russians are using, these are probably rail launched, but those launchers will be impossible to locate.
This is a Shahed drone on a single launch rail
HESA Shahed 136 - Wikipedia
The Saudis have been bombing that region of Yemen for years and there isn't much left.
The problem with drone warfare that everyone is coming to terms with right now is that the barrier to entry into this kind of warfare is extremely low. A force whose reach from their forces was measured in hundreds of feet or meters a few years ago now has a range of effect in the hundreds of Km with weapons that cost as little as a mortar.
Air defense systems evolved into missiles leaving artillery based systems behind because the aerial threat was from manned aircraft. Missiles are usually one shot, one kill whereas guns can take a lot more rounds and have shorter range than missiles.
Few militaries have enough manned aircraft to overwhelm even a modest missile based AD system and those that do are not going to risk their expensive trained pilots and expensive manned aircraft to attack them. Russia is one of the few air forces big enough, but the AD capabilities of Ukraine have kept their airpower stood down to a large degree in that war.
The nature of aerial warfare has changed dramatically and air defense systems have not caught up.
Shahed are slow, low tech drones. I don't think jamming will work with them because they are fairly autonomous once launched. However, I think helicopters armed with infantry automatic weapons might prove to be effective. Every USN destroyer has at least one helicopter. The US could also send in an LHA or LHD with a helicopter air wing. Currently the US only has two active LHAs (5 were decommissioned and the replacements are being built), but there are 7 LHDs active (the 8th destroyed by fire in San Diego a couple of years ago).
Landing helicopter dock - Wikipedia
Landing helicopter assault - Wikipedia
Understood. Playing whack a mole at launch sites doesn't work. Certainly didn't work for Israel against Hamas in Gaza.
I don't believe all the Houthi leadership and major weapons facilities/assets are in hiding or untouchable. I would think that our enormous military budget and presence in the Region would have the capability to send a VERY strong message and level of pain to cut this out yesterday.
If we can't promptly restrain or deter something like this - what good is having this massive US Navy and military budget in the first place?
Apparently the Houthi's attacks have already disrupted 20% of total global shipping costing over $200 billion so far. Not to mention all the extra carbon being burnt by tankers having to travel all around the horn of Africa.
Again, if the US and our allies can't deter something like this - are we capable of doing anything?
