Kilotango74
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How about van, truck, bus, wagon, quad, By the way your being a sugar head and it fits you just fine.
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Lets start calling ice cars Burners
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That is absolutely not what he said. It is reasonable to point out that ICE/"burner" vehicles are more harmful for the environment that EVs. If people start to recognize that, much like smoking in public, that is not bullying. It is more akin to spreading awareness. He did not suggest that we insult and tease them, nor ridicule them. More so, he said "transition". He never intimated people should abandon their cars for something they cannot afford. People do not buy a car and stick with that same car for the rest of their lives. They lease them, wear them into the ground, etc. When they can, and are able, to transition to an EV, to lessen our dependence on fossil fuels, that is a good thing (again, IMHO).
Uncle Paul
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Gonna get flamed, but in a way, oil is also a renewable.
As consumers burn more oil, explorers simply seem to be able to find more and more of it. Seems like the Earth is continously generating oil. It is not dead dinosaurs or plants, but something the Earth produces.
There are more oil reserves than we had 20 years ago. All the consumption has not reduced the oil in the Earth significantly. We are finding more natural gas than we can use. Often just flare it off as waste...still there is more.
Downside is still that burning the oil still messes up the air, but not sure that it is not really still a renewable. Kind of like trees can be replanted to replace that which has been cut down.
In a strange way, we are really cleaning up the earth, by pumping out all that nasty oil.
Little out of the box thinking.
As consumers burn more oil, explorers simply seem to be able to find more and more of it. Seems like the Earth is continously generating oil. It is not dead dinosaurs or plants, but something the Earth produces.
There are more oil reserves than we had 20 years ago. All the consumption has not reduced the oil in the Earth significantly. We are finding more natural gas than we can use. Often just flare it off as waste...still there is more.
Downside is still that burning the oil still messes up the air, but not sure that it is not really still a renewable. Kind of like trees can be replanted to replace that which has been cut down.
In a strange way, we are really cleaning up the earth, by pumping out all that nasty oil.
Little out of the box thinking.
That's a really arse about way of thinking about the whole environment situation. Well done!
Edit: I'll probably get flamed for this too.
I’d love your reference for this. There seems to be a library of research that disputes it, so I’m very curious to check out your source on naturally replenishing oil.
Oil resources are finite, over a human lifetime. As experience increases and as technology improves, those volumes of resources get upgraded to "reserves" - which are quantities potentially or economically produced.
If economic incentives are sufficiently good, it allows lifting of the expensive barrels. If incentives are poor, wells get plugged and abandoned.
(Which means theoretically, as scarcity decreases and prices increase, they'll start pumping the hard-to-reach oil.... but actual prices are driven by speculation by futures traders; and prone to artificial oligopic supply control, geopolitics, etc... another topic for another day).
On the whole, NEW discoveries are still happening, but at lower historic rate. Most of the existing spend is figuring out how to pump more from existing depleted fields.
Why shouldn’t he? OP wants people to feel “less nice” about driving their cars.
What’s good for the goose and all.
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