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The only practical reasons I could think of not getting the m3p is because I need the range (310 vs 250-270~), or if I didn't like the look of the rims and tires.
I had a LR RWD before. Couldn't stand how sluggish it was (P3D was not available at the time). Then I upgraded to a P3D and never looked back.
I have both a LR and a P3D and the last thing I would call the LR is "sluggish". When I have a passenger I generally only floor the LR if they want me to demonstrate it's acceleration. Or maybe for a freeway merge or passing maneuver but only for a second or two, otherwise you will find yourself in ticket territory before you know it. The P3D is the same way if I have a passenger but more so. When I'm alone I floor it whenever it makes good sense.
If it doesn't make your balls tingle, it's sluggish
Well then, with that definition the P3D is sluggish too. I have three Ducati motorcycles that make my balls tingle, but the P3D doesn't. The P3D is as smooth as glass and easy as pie. Just like the RWD LR but with more cowbell. That's what makes it so amazing, the speed at which it can propel you forward is effortless.
Well then, with that definition the P3D is sluggish too..
KenF, I have a P3D+ and my experience is nowhere near the level range loss as you are experiencing. My daily use is in town 7-15 mi trips at speeds 35-50 mph. My trip to work is 7.2 or 14.7 mi depending on the which route I take. Last Wed I scheduled my charge to end about the time I needed to go to work. The charging completed a few mins in front of my departure, the outside temp 19F, cabin preheated to 68F while connected to the charger (this is the only time I do preheating). When I left for work had ~95% regen arrived at work with energy usage at 279 Wh/mi. Nine hours later left for home outside temp 25F had snowflake on battery indicator. Arrived at home with energy usage of 399 Wh/mi.When I bought my car, I would have said performance. However, having experienced a 50% loss in range in 30-40 degree temperatures, and given the upcoming improved acceleration on the LR (325 miles, 5.0s 0-60) via a software update, I think that’s the way to go.
For me, efficiency is poor unless I (1) charge immediately before departure and (2) do not use the HVAC. In my particular situation, I have free charging at work so I do not use my home charger except in emergencies. Disabling HVAC is not realistic when it is 20-40 degrees.The point of this if you are making lots of short trips in temps less than 45-50F, my experience is the HVAC draws a huge amount of power (I've measured it to be as much as 15kW @ 4F & cabin 68F). Yes the HVAC, the best i've ever seen in a car heats the car to the 68F in ~5mins in single digit temps, but during the period it's drawing 10kW. So if then make a stop, even for 15-20 mins and go again for another 10-15 min drive, the HVAC is drawing for 3-4 mins 10kW again. Now if you were taking a road trip the cabin reaches its temp and the HVAC only needs a fraction of the power to keep it there.
It's not the "look" that necessitates this, its the impracticality and fragile nature of the 20" rims and tires.
Are the rims really that fragile? I've heard mixed opinions but I guess it depends more on where you live in terms of how susceptible you are to potholes.
That's what I did yesterday. I got the flow forged 18" rims from TSportline and Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ tires.The only way I would buy a Performance 3 today is if I was willing to buy aftermarket 18" wheels that fit over the Performance brakes (because they are available) and sell the 20" rims and tires in new condition. It's not the "look" that necessitates this, its the impracticality and fragile nature of the 20" rims and tires.
That's what I did yesterday. I got the flow forged 18" rims from TSportline and Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ tires.
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I hit two potholes in 3 months and bent two rims (twice). Luckily Tesla did not have the 20-in rims and stuck so I bent my bend rims even more. I Even had a bubble form in the sidewall of my tire and had to replace that too. and the replacement tires and rims were way too expensive so I decided to just buy the 18-inch aftermarket rims and all season tires which are much cheaper in the 18" size
325? Where is that figure coming from? Even with the 5% boost, I think HP comes in at less than 300.RWD! 325 and sub-5 0-60. Unless you need AWD, it’s the best deal