ratsbew
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Elon said the biggest lesson they learned from the Model X was not to have too many new features in one product. That is what delayed the X so much.
Exactly. At the X event, there were tons of details that weren't shown.
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March Model 3 Unveil just drawings? No actual car? Disappointed.
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Elon said the biggest lesson they learned from the Model X was not to have too many new features in one product. That is what delayed the X so much.
Exactly. At the X event, there were tons of details that weren't shown.
Snow Drift
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i don't mean anything crazy, but as compared to the Bolt, Leaf and other competitors. Plus tech capability inside or something that makes it different. They are concerned about showing the world something.
stopcrazypp
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I think the Model 3 unveiling might be closer to the original S unveiling than the Model X one. The Model X one unveiled a lot more (and was a lot closer to a production version) than the S. I think Elon is saying it'll be more like the S (where you see how inside and outside will basically look, but some features might not be announced yet).
Edit: I can see how it can be interpreted that he wasn't talking about having a car or not. He may only be answering the second portion of the question.
Snow Drift
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Agreed. It's a matter of content to show, not picture vs physical car.
<---- PS. Go Broncos!
To maintain the hype makes sense for the company to withhold some of the innovative features:
+ Musk's quote didn't mean the car itself would not be shown. Tesla's strength relies in IT among other things
+ My guess goes for some of the software related features could postponed until late 2016, these could be:
1) Tesla car sharing software/tech 2) Autopilot 2.0 full capabilities (it will have the sensors for sure but the software is not ready yet) 3) Actual range of the vehicle (it will be 200+ but how much more?)
+ Musk's quote didn't mean the car itself would not be shown. Tesla's strength relies in IT among other things
+ My guess goes for some of the software related features could postponed until late 2016, these could be:
1) Tesla car sharing software/tech 2) Autopilot 2.0 full capabilities (it will have the sensors for sure but the software is not ready yet) 3) Actual range of the vehicle (it will be 200+ but how much more?)
Agree. But they may give it just for the base battery, and say "There will also be an option for a bigger battery with even more range". But yes, they need to tell us what to expect of a minimum range, will it be ~208 like in the 60? ~240 as in the 70D? More? Less?
Reeler
Decade of Pure EV Driving
I predict a clay model or early prototype that is close to the ultimate configuration and not auto-show BS. He will give range and state whether it is single or dual motor. They will show the interior enough to confirm it is 5 seat configuration and has a 15" display, with cup holders and a center console.
For more, he will wait for the Leaf reveal. The car will look cooler than the Bolt (not difficult) and better than anything Nissan is likely to come up with. After the Leaf reveal, Chevy and Nissan will have their configurations set in stone so that Tesla can finalize initial specs.
For more, he will wait for the Leaf reveal. The car will look cooler than the Bolt (not difficult) and better than anything Nissan is likely to come up with. After the Leaf reveal, Chevy and Nissan will have their configurations set in stone so that Tesla can finalize initial specs.
McHoffa
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They showed off the Model X in full form inside and out (though not final design) almost 3 full years before launch. I would think they will show a full Model 3 even if the design isn't finalized since it's supposed to ship in only ~18 months.
Reeler
Decade of Pure EV Driving
If they were on schedule, I would agree with that. Sadly, I think my next EV purchase will be a Bolt. I can drive that for a couple years while I wait for my Model 3 reservation to ripen. I will probably cancel the order if the $7500 tax rebate is exhausted.
Bimbels
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Gizmotoy
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The chances of being able to sit on a Model 3 reservation for several years and receive the $7500 federal rebate and essentially zero. If it launches on time, maybe some of the first model year will be eligible due to the delay imposed by quarter alignment and then the taper. If it launches late, perhaps none will be eligible.
Reeler
Decade of Pure EV Driving
If they don't have a working prototype at the reveal, they are behind schedule. I think the delay in the Model X, including the two months mine has been built and waiting at the factory for them to fix bugs, pushed the Model 3. I think we will see clay models or renderings at the reveal and no car company can go from that to deliveries in 18 months. Certainly not Tesla.
Heck, Model X Founders Editions were out in September and I am still waiting for my FbR one some 5 months later. Stop sipping the Kool-Aid for a moment and know that we will not see a Model 3 delivered in 18 months.
Your argument is circular. They won't have a working prototype at the reveal because they are behind schedule. They are behind schedule because they won't have a working prototype at the reveal.
How about this. They are on schedule as they have repeatedly said and therefore they will have a working prototype at the reveal.
Reeler
Decade of Pure EV Driving
Exactly. I have two tickets for the reveal. If I see a working prototype ther, I agree that they may presently be on schedule.
Bimbels
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While not drinking kool-aid, I would be shocked if they botched such an important reveal by not showing an actual car. Even if that car is a concept and not the final product.
Please post pics/vids from the reveal! I think it will be a very exciting event.
Breezy
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They will show an actual, physical car in March. Elon answered a specific question about pictures with a specific answer about pictures.
