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When I cut my teeth on the study of comparative government in a graduate seminar taught by Roy Macridis moonlighting at Harvard in the summer of 1958, the British Parliamentary system was widely considered the best form of government. (He was one of the top men in his field.) Then there was a more or less stable balance between the two major parties--Tories and Labor. In our book my co author argued we should benefit from a parliamentary form because then and now divided government cannot govern since responsibility for error cannot be easily fixed in the public eye and now with a Senate division is perpetuated despite the passions of the masses.

It's been awhile since i've taught the course so don't have sound knowledge why the Brits got themselves in this mess, but coalition governments are notoriously shaky and subject to bizarre issues touted by minorities within the coalition. Israel is an extreme example of this. Furthermore, since Tony Blair British politics has more of the US taint of personality politics, which fuzzes focus on issues to be decided by elections. Just a guess.

And then there's the Russians, Facebook, and Cambridge Analytica. Here too and perhaps ever more.
On the other hand, we seem to like minority governments in Canada. Not coalitions, mind you.

Minority governments the largest party has less than half the seats. So to get things done they have to compromise with the other parties in parliament. That seems to bring about good legislation a lot of the time.

That, or legislation nobody's happy with.
 
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I personally don’t know any fellow Canadians who feel that the US has things better than us.

At least one Canadian here has praised the US system of government and I think another one did some time back. In general Canada is much more liberal than the US. The French Canadians are one of the most liberal sub-cultures in North America, and the dominant Anglophone parts of Canada are at leas ton par with the more liberal parts of the US.

The Prairie Provinces though are somewhat more conservative than the country as a whole and they may look across the border and while not completely liking what they see, they like some things about the US more than most of the rest of Canada.

There is also some longing for things American. I was an early adopter to the small dish satellite TV systems, and held onto the original box for more than 10 years. When I was thinking of replacing it I checked out a number of forums for satellite TV to familiarize myself with what was available and to decide whether to switch to another provider. The forums then were flooded with Canadians trying to figure out how to get around Canada's embargo on a lot of US TV channels. The Canadian government at the time wouldn't allow many American channels even by satellite to be shown in Canada.

I don't know if the restrictions have been eased, I haven't been on those forums in years.

In general most Canadians I've known do not want to be mistaken for Americans and many will get testy if they are.

When I cut my teeth on the study of comparative government in a graduate seminar taught by Roy Macridis moonlighting at Harvard in the summer of 1958, the British Parliamentary system was widely considered the best form of government. (He was one of the top men in his field.) Then there was a more or less stable balance between the two major parties--Tories and Labor. In our book my co author argued we should benefit from a parliamentary form because then and now divided government cannot govern since responsibility for error cannot be easily fixed in the public eye and now with a Senate division is perpetuated despite the passions of the masses.

It's been awhile since i've taught the course so don't have sound knowledge why the Brits got themselves in this mess, but coalition governments are notoriously shaky and subject to bizarre issues touted by minorities within the coalition. Israel is an extreme example of this. Furthermore, since Tony Blair British politics has more of the US taint of personality politics, which fuzzes focus on issues to be decided by elections. Just a guess.

And then there's the Russians, Facebook, and Cambridge Analytica. Here too and perhaps ever more.

Brexit is what broke the UK's government. I've been tuning in to at least some British TV every week for a few years and Brexit has sucked all the oxygen out of the room. Essentially it's an impossible problem without breaking the UK economy and nobody in government with any sanity wants to do it.

On the other hand, we seem to like minority governments in Canada. Not coalitions, mind you.

Minority governments the largest party has less than half the seats. So to get things done they have to compromise with the other parties in parliament. That seems to bring about good legislation a lot of the time.

That, or legislation nobody's happy with.

My SO and I have talked about compromise in government a fair bit. When governments are healthy, there is compromise between factions and the result is usually something nobody loves, but most people can live with, which often turns out OK. Extremist laws can get passed when only one faction is able to dictate everything.
 
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At least one Canadian here has praised the US system of government and I think another one did some time back.

Idiotic traitor! :p
In general Canada is much more liberal than the US. The French Canadians are one of the most liberal sub-cultures in North America, and the dominant Anglophone parts of Canada are at leas ton par with the more liberal parts of the US.
Not really true.

In US terms, the Quebecois are purple, and shift around. Currently the government of Quebec is populist right wing, and this weekend is enacting legislation that actively discriminates against minority religions.

The Prairie Provinces though are somewhat more conservative than the country as a whole and they may look across the border and while not completely liking what they see, they like some things about the US more than most of the rest of Canada.

Historically not true, but currently true. The Canadian Prairies were where the rise of Canadian social democracy came from. Tommy Douglas (Kiefer Sutherland's grandfather) was the first socialist government elected in North America. He was Canada's Father of Medicare.

Unfortunately the NDP abandoned their social democratic roots in the early '90s, and became a right wing party. This pissed off the rural areas of Saskatchewan at least, who became rabidly right wing after the NDP closed 50 rural hospitals. The last federal election the NDP ran as the second-most right wing party in modern Canadian history.

There is also some longing for things American.

BS

I was an early adopter to the small dish satellite TV systems, and held onto the original box for more than 10 years. When I was thinking of replacing it I checked out a number of forums for satellite TV to familiarize myself with what was available and to decide whether to switch to another provider. The forums then were flooded with Canadians trying to figure out how to get around Canada's embargo on a lot of US TV channels. The Canadian government at the time wouldn't allow many American channels even by satellite to be shown in Canada.
An anecdote of Canadians wanted to watch US TV channels available north of the border is not indicative of longing for things American.

I don't know if the restrictions have been eased, I haven't been on those forums in years.

In general most Canadians I've known do not want to be mistaken for Americans and many will get testy if they are.
The stereotype of the "ugly American" is there for a reason.

Before you say anything else, I'm the only Canadian in my family. The rest are American.

Brexit is what broke the UK's government. I've been tuning in to at least some British TV every week for a few years and Brexit has sucked all the oxygen out of the room. Essentially it's an impossible problem without breaking the UK economy and nobody in government with any sanity wants to do it.



My SO and I have talked about compromise in government a fair bit. When governments are healthy, there is compromise between factions and the result is usually something nobody loves, but most people can live with, which often turns out OK. Extremist laws can get passed when only one faction is able to dictate everything.
 
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At his signature address at George Washington University Senator Sander’s gave an unflinching account of just how skewed things have become.

“When we talk about oligarchy, let us be clear about what we mean. Right now, in the United States of America, three families control more wealth than the bottom half of our country, some 160 million Americans,” he said. “The top 1 percent own more wealth than the bottom 92 percent and 49 percent of all new income generated today goes to the top one percent. In fact, income and wealth inequality today in the United States is greater than at any time since the 1920s.”

And he pointed out that as the very rich are getting much richer . . . tens of millions of working-class people, in the wealthiest country on earth, are “suffering under incredible economic hardship, desperately trying to survive.”

Capitalism needs to be changed because it’s not working.


“Today, nearly 40 million Americans live in poverty and tonight, 500,000 people will be sleeping out on the streets,” said Sanders. “About half of the country lives paycheck to paycheck as tens of millions of our people are an accident, a divorce, a sickness or a layoff away from economic devastation.”

This did not all happen overnight. This is what happens when the elected political leadership of a nation becomes totally untethered from the circumstances of their electorate.
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Self-preservation fuels the Democratic base’s lurch to the left — before the rich take it all
 
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OK, Democrats — you’ve had your fun. You grew up being told that everybody could run for president, and then everybody did. Except that this mad anthill scramble of presidential candidates, which resembles a bunch of kindergarteners descending on not enough cookies, really hasn’t been fun so far. All you’ve managed to do is put the fear of God — or the fear of the other guy, more like — into the voters, provoking widespread PTSD flashbacks to November 2016.

We’re now less than two weeks away from the first debate of the 2020 Democratic campaign, and everybody and his freakin’ uncle is running for president. (In fact, everybody’s freakin’ uncle, he of the squeezy hands, minty breath and bottled conventional wisdom about the “middle class” and what it wants, is the notional frontrunner.) This is stupid. It makes our country look stupid. (Which isn’t hard.) It makes the political party that presents the only realistic opposition to the ignorant, corrupt, would-be fascist tyrant in the White House look dysfunctional, weak and stupid. (Ditto.) It’s time for half of them, or most of them, to bail out.

We know who the Democratic nominee will be. Well, no, we don’t. We know it will either be Joe Biden or one of a modest handful of people hypothetically positioned to become the anti-Biden. Those people are all senators with two-syllable names, with a sort of asterisk for the 12-year-old mayor of River City. Those people can all stay, along with a few others who have a minuscule but still measurable chance or are pretty much running for vice president. (Here’s looking at you, Amy Klobuchar!) And, sure, we can have a couple of marginal candidates who serve a purpose: Jay Inslee is the climate guy; Tulsi Gabbard (even if you hate her) has nudged the debate on endless war and America’s obscure but terrible foreign policy (i.e., endless war) fractionally to the left; Mike Gravel, or rather “Mike Gravel,” has been delightful in every way.

But everybody else? Dude, it’s over. Hang it up. Go back to your day jobs. Or, in the case of the horde of semi-retired Mountain West Democrats in this race, go back to settin’ all day at the fly-tyin’ bench and not gettin’ a durn thing done. (I know whereof I speak: I may be a member of the “coastal elite” now, but I spent a lot of time growing up in a gold-mining town so small and so overrun by Mormons that my parents and one other old-line family were known, collectively, as “the Democrats.”)

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The Hickenlooper paradox: Can half the Dems please quit right now?
 
When I cut my teeth on the study of comparative government in a graduate seminar taught by Roy Macridis moonlighting at Harvard in the summer of 1958, the British Parliamentary system was widely considered the best form of government. (He was one of the top men in his field.) Then there was a more or less stable balance between the two major parties--Tories and Labor. In our book my co author argued we should benefit from a parliamentary form because then and now divided government cannot govern since responsibility for error cannot be easily fixed in the public eye and now with a Senate division is perpetuated despite the passions of the masses.

It's been awhile since i've taught the course so don't have sound knowledge why the Brits got themselves in this mess,
Both of the major parties discredited themselves -- Labour with Tony Blair and the Iraq War, Tories with Cameron's bungled Brexit vote and May's refusal to resign. The abominable "Fixed Terms Parliament Act" made it possible for May to refuse to resign, and was a major structural mistake.

The LibDems also discredited themselves by going into coalition with the Tories and then having the Tories act in bad faith and refuse to give the LibDems *any* of their platform planks.

This meant that the only legitimate political party left in the UK was the Scottish National Party, but it doesn't run candidates outside Scotland. (And it's getting more votes than the Tories and Labour *put together* in Scotland.) Basically until the complete leadership replacement of at least two parties, there's no possible stable government. Corbyn is doing his best to oust the Blairites, which might give Labour a chance, but he is a bit of a bungler, failing to come down on the side of "Remain". The Tories have only one popular politician, and that's Boris.

Coalitions work fine in Germany, whose parliamentary system is better than the British system because they have proportional representation rather than single-member first-past-the-post districts. They also work pretty well in Spain. In general systems of government which allow coalitions are better for left-wingers than for right-wingers, because getting left-wingers into one party is like herding cats. There are exceptions: the Tories in the UK have been propped up by coalitions with extremist right-wing Northern Ireland parties over and over throughout their history.
 
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He doesn't understand politics. Silly, dumb article. Unfortunately it reflects a common misunderstanding of politics.

It is absolutely correct for the DNC to schedule a ton of debates starting very early. And they *will* winnow the field, and *fast*. The debates have a solid chance of knocking out Biden, in fact.

We haven't had this sort of "debating scrum" done at a national level in my lifetime, but it was done back in the 19th century a lot, and it's been done in local elections much more recently, and it works.
 
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Coalitions work fine in Germany, whose parliamentary system is better than the British system because they have proportional representation rather than single-member first-past-the-post districts.

Very informative post. A small quibble, the German voting system is complex, combining pr and some state input which is different. Often Germans don't understand it and its not straight in my head now as I had to have notes to teach it. It is widely considered the best voting system because a hybrid due to a federal system. The Basic Law was basically written by Am. political scientists. I had lunch once with Karl Friedrich at a convention but we didn't talk about that.
 
In US terms, the Quebecois are purple, and shift around. Currently the government of Quebec is populist right wing, and this weekend is enacting legislation that actively discriminates against minority religions.

French Canadians basically think differently from just about every other population in North America. In some ways they can be very progressive, they pushed harder for native's rights than just about any other non-native population on either side of the border, but they can also be very provincial and even petty.

I was in a restaurant in Victoria, BC and there was an older woman from Quebec who refused to speak English to any of the staff and they had to bring out one of the kitchen help to take her order. When the workers in the restaurant were out of earshot she spoke fluent English with the kid who I think was her grandson sitting with her. A friend of mine was born and raised in Quebec, but lives in Saskatoon. She was exasperated pointing out that women like that one in the restaurant make day to day life more difficult for my friend.

My friend has a thick French accent because she's one of those people who is wired to be monolingual. She gets treated like she's an idiot even though she has a masters degree and is quite intelligent if you look past the accent. Ironically she's not even ethnically French. Her ethnicity is part English and part Italian. Her family ended up in Quebec due to a complex story I forget at the moment.

Historically not true, but currently true. The Canadian Prairies were where the rise of Canadian social democracy came from. Tommy Douglas (Kiefer Sutherland's grandfather) was the first socialist government elected in North America. He was Canada's Father of Medicare.

Unfortunately the NDP abandoned their social democratic roots in the early '90s, and became a right wing party. This pissed off the rural areas of Saskatchewan at least, who became rabidly right wing after the NDP closed 50 rural hospitals. The last federal election the NDP ran as the second-most right wing party in modern Canadian history.

The American prairie states were reliably Democrat during the FDR era, but are now very conservative too. The book American Nations talks about the forces that crafted the interior west culture on both sides of the border. The interior west couldn't be settled without outside capital building infrastructure. First the railroads, but also other projects played roles. For most of their history, that region has served as an internal resource colony for the rest of their country and the people there resent it.

Over the last 50 years they have embraced a more conservative politics.

The stereotype of the "ugly American" is there for a reason.

Yes it is. My mother was a person who could be that way. The US is not culturally unified, just like Canada and the UK aren't. In the UK there are internal borders that mostly delineate the cultures, but there are also cultural differences between southern and northern England.

In both Canada and the US, the cultural lines don't follow any boundaries drawn on a map. Many US states have 2-3 cultures. The US cultures most of the world dislike the most are Southern and Appalachian both of which have long histories of treating people who are different from them poorly. Nobody's track record on this continent is all that great, but the American South is the only culture that instituted a set of laws that created an apartheid system and by the 20th century vigil ante murder outside the South was rare and actively prosecuted when it happened.

Most of the blue states look at Canada and see a utopia. Most of the red states look at both the blue states and Canada as "other" and are can be jerks about it.

But individuals vary. My mother was born and lived her entire life in California, but was a nightmare around others sometimes. When she started essentially yelling about colored money in a restaurant in Canada I had to walk out.

I also know a number of people who have lived their entire lives in the American South who are genuinely thoughtful people who might stand out in Canada because of their accent, but not because of their behavior.

More liberal areas of the US tend to discourage that type of thinking to a large degree, and more conservative areas often encourage it. That's why you more often hear asinine things come out of the mouth of conservative politicians in the US. A fair number of modern conservatives applaud ugly behavior, though the more classical conservatives are as outraged as everyone else.

Before you say anything else, I'm the only Canadian in my family. The rest are American.

I think you have mentioned something along those lines before.

He doesn't understand politics. Silly, dumb article. Unfortunately it reflects a common misunderstanding of politics.

It is absolutely correct for the DNC to schedule a ton of debates starting very early. And they *will* winnow the field, and *fast*. The debates have a solid chance of knocking out Biden, in fact.

We haven't had this sort of "debating scrum" done at a national level in my lifetime, but it was done back in the 19th century a lot, and it's been done in local elections much more recently, and it works.

I still see a lot of people drawing parallels between the Republicans and Democrats here. Someone was warning that the Republicans had a cast of thousand in 2016 and the most outrageous won and warn that could happen in 2020 to the Democrats, but I don't see that.

Democratic primary voters are polar opposite to Republican primary voters when it comes to picking a candidate. The Democrats who do vote in primaries are much higher information voters than Republicans and while a dynamic, personable candidate will get a lot of traction, they also want someone of substance. An empty shirt spouting slogans gets nowhere among Democrats.

A lot of people are giving Pete Buttigeig a second look because he is one of the most dynamic characters in the race, but he's also been criticized for lack of policy points thus far. If he proves that his depth of policy is on par with the other front runners, he will be in the scrum next year. If he's just and empty suit, he will be forgotten by the end of the summer.

Democrats have sometimes nominated people who were too much policy wonks. People like Dukakis and Hillary were deep on policy, but shallow on personality. The ones who took off were the ones who could do both like Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. Both could talk in depth about just about any political subject at a moment's notice, but they also knew how to sell themselves too.

Biden is a different flavor of personable. It didn't sell well when he ran before, but it's got some traction this year. Biden is a massive contrast to Trump because except for his tendency to be a bit too touchy, he's a nice guy. He's the only man who has been caught up in any kind of inappropriate touching scandal that few have thought it was anything sexual.

Biden also knows the issues. For younger Democrats his views on the issues are out of date, and maybe he is too conservative for younger generations, but few would say he's an empty suit. He is one of the most experienced politicians to ever run for the presidency. He held elected office from January 1973 to January 2017.

Biden may not get the nomination, but he is pretty much guaranteed to be in the running next year unless his health suddenly fails him or something like that.

There are a lot of candidates at the back of the pack who should be looking for other offices. There are Republican senators up for re-election in Montana, Texas, and Colorado. The presidential candidates from those states would almost certainly get the nomination and have a shot at unseating the incumbent, especially if the Republican brand is in tatters next fall, which is possible. Then aim to be a high profile senator and run next time the presidency is in play.

Buttigeig doesn't have a senate seat to shoot for, but in 2020 the governor's seat is up for election.

The presidency is important, but there are a lot of important down ticket races too. The candidates who are a long shot at the presidency and in a position to flip a seat should take aim at them. Especially the younger candidates, they have time to wait for another opening for the presidency.
 
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Hello everyone,

I've been following this thread and the investors thread closely since the beginning of Q1. I believe the upcoming 2020 elections are of critical importance for the world as a whole and thus would like to give my two cents regarding the Bernie - Warren debate.

I'd like to preface it by saying that Sen. Warren is obviously a highly intelligent woman and I am grateful for her pushing the debate to the left. The Overton window has shifted so far to the right in the US that any left voice is highly important. Her policy ideas are well thought out and are an effective proposal to tackle the deep income inequality that is hurting millions of Americans.

However, seeing how deeply corrupt and broken the US political system is, I do not believe that mere ideas are enough to fix it. Obamacare shared many similarities with Romneycare and also with a plan by the conservative thin tank The Heritage Foundation. And yet, not a single Republican voted for it. The partisanship and us-against-them mentality is now simply dominating politics. Therefore, while good policy is definitely a necessity, good politics is even more important. In order for these policies to be implemented, an insane amount of political pressure will have to be applied and millions of people will have to be mobilized. This is where the main difference between Bernie and Warren lies:

- Bernie has been on the ground fighting for justice his whole life (from the Civil Rights Movement to fighting for women's rights).
- Bernie will continue to mobilize people and get them to protest to apply political pressure to the people in power. He's already done it to Amazon and Disney, and just recently increased the pressure on Walmart and McDonalds, and is constantly encouraging his supporters to join protesters on the ground.

- Warren seems to be *a lot* weaker politically. She wasn't bold enough to endorse Bernie in 2016 but rather waited and endorsed Hillary instead.
- Warren also constantly champions the bad impact of money in politics but will take corporate PAC money in the generals. She also funneled her Senate race money containing corp. PAC money into her 2020 campaign and is surrounding herself with some questionable PAC actors.
- Although this is, of course, not in her control, the fact that Neera Tanden is speaking positively about her (repeatedly and repeatedly) seems a bit suspicious to me (the same Neera Tanden that is the president of the pro-establishment think thank Center for American progress; the same Neera Tanden that met in secret with Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Pete Buttigieg, et al to discuss how to stop Bernie).
- Again, while this is not in her control at all, her recent very positive coverage in the media where she seems to be used as an argument to discredit Bernie is also looking a bit weird to me.

As a European with many good friends in the US, it truly hurts my heart to see that such a wealthy country is running a system where ~40k people die due to no access to healthcare, where young people are being financially punished for going to college, where the whole criminal justice system is racist to its core, and where the income inequality is just so ridiculously high.

I'd also like to note that Bernie and Tesla share a surprising amount of overlap in their mission and how they are treated: Trying to create a better future, fighting large industries and the establishment, and being smeared endlessly by the mainstream media. Although, to be fair, those three things are certainly all correlated.

I apologize for the length of this post but I would love to hear your guys' thoughts on this topic. Am I reading a bit too much between the lines (such as with Neera Tanden) and/or am I putting too much weight on political pressure and is having a clear policy platform enough to change the system in the US? What do you believe is the best way to actually implement progressive change?

Thanks for all of your fantastic insights (especially all the high-quality information that is posted daily in the investors thread). I will be rooting for you all in 2020.
 
Hello everyone,

I've been following this thread and the investors thread closely since the beginning of Q1. I believe the upcoming 2020 elections are of critical importance for the world as a whole and thus would like to give my two cents regarding the Bernie - Warren debate.

I'd like to preface it by saying that Sen. Warren is obviously a highly intelligent woman and I am grateful for her pushing the debate to the left. The Overton window has shifted so far to the right in the US that any left voice is highly important. Her policy ideas are well thought out and are an effective proposal to tackle the deep income inequality that is hurting millions of Americans.

However, seeing how deeply corrupt and broken the US political system is, I do not believe that mere ideas are enough to fix it. Obamacare shared many similarities with Romneycare and also with a plan by the conservative thin tank The Heritage Foundation. And yet, not a single Republican voted for it. The partisanship and us-against-them mentality is now simply dominating politics. Therefore, while good policy is definitely a necessity, good politics is even more important. In order for these policies to be implemented, an insane amount of political pressure will have to be applied and millions of people will have to be mobilized. This is where the main difference between Bernie and Warren lies:

- Bernie has been on the ground fighting for justice his whole life (from the Civil Rights Movement to fighting for women's rights).
- Bernie will continue to mobilize people and get them to protest to apply political pressure to the people in power. He's already done it to Amazon and Disney, and just recently increased the pressure on Walmart and McDonalds, and is constantly encouraging his supporters to join protesters on the ground.

- Warren seems to be *a lot* weaker politically. She wasn't bold enough to endorse Bernie in 2016 but rather waited and endorsed Hillary instead.
- Warren also constantly champions the bad impact of money in politics but will take corporate PAC money in the generals. She also funneled her Senate race money containing corp. PAC money into her 2020 campaign and is surrounding herself with some questionable PAC actors.
- Although this is, of course, not in her control, the fact that Neera Tanden is speaking positively about her (repeatedly and repeatedly) seems a bit suspicious to me (the same Neera Tanden that is the president of the pro-establishment think thank Center for American progress; the same Neera Tanden that met in secret with Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Pete Buttigieg, et al to discuss how to stop Bernie).
- Again, while this is not in her control at all, her recent very positive coverage in the media where she seems to be used as an argument to discredit Bernie is also looking a bit weird to me.

As a European with many good friends in the US, it truly hurts my heart to see that such a wealthy country is running a system where ~40k people die due to no access to healthcare, where young people are being financially punished for going to college, where the whole criminal justice system is racist to its core, and where the income inequality is just so ridiculously high.

I'd also like to note that Bernie and Tesla share a surprising amount of overlap in their mission and how they are treated: Trying to create a better future, fighting large industries and the establishment, and being smeared endlessly by the mainstream media. Although, to be fair, those three things are certainly all correlated.

I apologize for the length of this post but I would love to hear your guys' thoughts on this topic. Am I reading a bit too much between the lines (such as with Neera Tanden) and/or am I putting too much weight on political pressure and is having a clear policy platform enough to change the system in the US? What do you believe is the best way to actually implement progressive change?

Thanks for all of your fantastic insights (especially all the high-quality information that is posted daily in the investors thread). I will be rooting for you all in 2020.

Welcome to the political corner :)

I think a lot of it might just be a rejection of Bernie by the Democratic core because he's an outsider. He has made it clear throughout his political career he's not a Democrat except when he's running for president. To the party leaders they see Bernie using the Democratic party as a flag of convenience and reject him because of it.

Other prominent Democrats with views similar to Bernie are embraced because they have demonstrated they are also loyal to the party. Warren was under a lot of internal party pressure to endorse Hillary in 2016 because Bernie was the outsider trying to hijack the party mechanism.

In a way Bernie's campaign in 2016 was similar to Trump's. Both were outsiders to the party they were running for who were trying to grab the nomination away from the establishment candidates. Bernie failed to win, but Trump managed to seize control of the Republican party. One of the differences between the parties is the Republicans these days only care about winning. If Joseph Stalin came back from the dead, ran as a Republican, and won, they would embrace him.

The Democrats have more concern about doing things the right way and whether you agree with it or not, they believe that the presidential candidate should be someone who had been a Democrat for more than a minute before declaring.

To the vast majority of people who aren't party insiders, the whole rejection of Bernie seems odd. His political views these days overlaps with a number of elected Democrats.

At least that's my take on it.
 
I think a lot of it might just be a rejection of Bernie by the Democratic core because he's an outsider. He has made it clear throughout his political career he's not a Democrat except when he's running for president. To the party leaders they see Bernie using the Democratic party as a flag of convenience and reject him because of it.
Bernie is what Democrats are supposed to be. That's why he threatens so many "real" Democrats.
 
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