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You must be the only physician aside from Trump's who thinks its a bad idea to prepare the public with measures that might minimize exposure, such as tele education or working at home. Very interesting. Obviously, I don't keep up with medical science except for some articles in Lancet that come my way. Has the germ theory been repealed? /s

Stop putting words in my mouth. I never said that.

I said that even with totalitarian measures like what China has been using, we would not be able to contain this. Those measures would NEVER happen in the USA. There would be riots in the streets if people were confined to their homes en masse.

Instead, our focus should be on pushing a viable vaccine as fast as we possibly can.
 
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Surprisingly, that makes perfect sense and fits the bill for all the available data.

And it suggests that an authoritarian regime isn't best qualified to contain a virus. Just saying, even if that's not what you meant to say in the first place. BTW, it didn't inspire confidence that T suggested that April would help in some obscure way. I guess that's something that got some people irritated.
 
And it suggests that an authoritarian regime isn't best qualified to contain a virus. Just saying, even if that's not what you meant to say in the first place. BTW, it didn't inspire confidence that T suggested that April would help in some obscure way. I guess that's something that got some people irritated.

It's not obscure if people actually read the back-story: the president was briefed that like most coronaviruses, COVID-19 could well be seasonal and abate when the weather warms. The media have jumped all over that, but there is precedent and science to back it, we just don't yet know if it will hold in this case. But I get the point that he wasn't concrete enough for some people.
 
How long before Trump declares current market panic caused by Bernie's recent victories? This from a guy who thinks the coronavirus will abate in April when the Earth gets hotter?
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Well, at the CF corona virus news conference Wednesday at ~6:40pm EST, trump acknowledges time travel.

He said the stock market plunge of _Monday_ was caused by the democratic debate _Tuesday_ night, 36 or so hours _later_

he then put in charge Pence, who screwed up the HIV response in the state in 2015, he was governor of, so Pence can screw it up and take the heat, a CF of CF’s.

at least they had Anthony Fauci of NIH whom has some gravitas and credentials
 
It may be, however the moderator has made it clear that there is a problem with posts dominated by external references. Since I like this thread, please do the obvious. It really doesn't add to the discussion having twiiter posts in oversized fonts, and pointless images.
 
The new narrative for South Carolina voters from the DNC .......and brought to you by who else but MSDNC

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It's technically true. Members of the party determine the nominee. Some states leave the door open for people who are not registered for a given party to fly a flag of convenience to vote in a primary, but the Supreme Court has decided that primaries are a party election run by the parties and not a public election.

When that decision came down Washington State had the most open primaries in the country and the state doesn't have party registration. Over 90% of the Washington public liked the way it was done, but both parties moved to close up the primary process in this state despite the public's opinion. The state experimented with a few primary processes that were legal within the SCOTUS decision and ended up settling on the method used now, which was adopted by California.

Back when this happened I was living in the Seattle area and there was much discussion about what it all meant on local talk radio (which has political programs, but aren't super partisan like the national programs).

While technically true that it is the party who determines the nominee, even if it is by millions contributing. It is technically limited to Democrats or those who want to call themselves Democrats for the day. The optics are not very good with statements like that.

I noticed Chris Hayes spent most of a program discussing Bernie's position and even calling him the probable nominee the other day. I didn't get the feeling there was anti-Bernie bias. He had both pro and anti-Bernie Democrats on to discuss it. He had another segment on it last night. I don't watch much TV news, but I happened to have some time around 5 PM the last few days and saw his show.

There has been some discussion on MSNBC, but also in other news sources about Bernie's doubling down on socialism, praising people like Fidel Castro for some of his accomplishments. It has brought about some snarkers pointing out Hitler's good qualities (he was a vegetarian, he liked dogs and apparently children, etc.) There were also people pointing out that John Wayne Dacey brought a lot of joy to children as a children's party entertainer and other upsides of otherwise horrible people.

I saw his comments at this week's debate and on 60 Minutes and while I think they are appropriate for an intellectual college seminar that examines the upsides and downsides of Castro's Cuba, Fidel Castro's good points are bad optics for a major political campaign.

If you look hard enough you can come up with something positive to say about almost anyone. But Bernie is falling into the same trap a lot of Democrats have done, being too much of an academic and the Republicans turn everything they say in the primary against them in the general. He's handing the Republican slime machine cases of bombs to use against him in the general and it concerns me quite a bit. If he had any political instincts at all he would be trying to nuance his past comments away instead of doubling down on them.

In real market news it looks like the markets are reacting to Trump's incompetence in dealing with the corona virus. The case that popped up yesterday of the California resident who didn't appear to have any connection to any other known cases appears to have come in contact with the cruise ship passengers without any protection. I was concerned that evacuating the passengers like they did was going to set it loose in the general population. This may be the only case, but it does show the government was not taking the proper precautions to prevent spread of the disease. I suspect we're going to see more cases like this spring up over the next week. The average incubation period is 14 days and the passengers were evacuated 10 days ago.

I saw portions of Trump's news conference yesterday and the contract between Trump's "everything is fine" message and the experts' comments was dramatic. He not only looked like a loon, but one who was making some major mistakes. Trump knows that the economy has to hold together for his re-election chances to remain possible, but the corona virus put a torpedo in the world economy that is just about guaranteed to trigger a world-wide recession. The world economy was already softening, but this outbreak has trashed the economy of the country that is at the heart of the world economy. That is definitely going to have ripple effects that are already being felt.

We are already seeing shortages of components to things made outside of China because most manufactured goods around the world have something made in China incorporated in the final product.

I expect the stock market will bounce back a bit. It tends to bounce back after a big shock like this. But the underlying economy is going to remain poor for a while.
 
14,000 people in the US died this year alone from Influenza.

I wish Influenza got the kind of publicity that this virus is getting.
Are you unaware of all the “get your flu shots” that are everywhere every fall? and other times.
Flu gets so much publicity that folks become casual about it because it’s already everywhere.
You as a _doctor_ should be aware of this, and offering flu shots in your practice

Pharmacies everywhere offer flu shots
Walmart offers flu shots
Doctors offices offer flu shots
 
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