HellsKitchen
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Mobile Charger no longer included
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TomServo
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If you bought a new one a Level I EVSE came with the car. I bought 3 new Volts. You must have purchased used.
Was it part of the purchase agreement? Trying to locate it in mine.
Spivas
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Then let those 80% chose not to include it when they order. Bam! 80% saved for Telsa. Then the other 20% can have something they really want or need.
Then Tesla should ship the mobile chargers when available. Not just decide to not include a critical piece of the car after I've already ordered
Good for you. Screw everyone else right?
yerEVan
Active Member
A couple things. 1) anyone trading in their tesla for a new one, I suggest not including the mobile connector kit, just keep it. 2) total money grab, if it was not, they would reduce the cost of the car.
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
Nonsense, more FUD regarding EVSE chargers on Amazon. YMMVI've never taken a poll esp. given that we have LOTS of Teslas at my work and free L2 charging (including numerous Tesla wall connectors).
That said, until the recent development of the mobile connector no longer being included, if a Tesla buyer/lessee asked on Slack at work or asked me directly, I'd also suggest they ignore prodding Tesla had (e.g. Home Charging and Wall Connector), just find out what outlets they have or max amperage circuit they support, then get the correct Gen 2 NEMA Adapters for their existing or future outlet instead of wasting $ on getting a Tesla wall connector installed.
For many US Tesla drivers, I suspect that charging away from home using their mobile connector is pretty rare or nil.
To add to what jcanoe said, to find charging on the road that is non-Tesla, strongly recommend one checks Plugshare (web site and app) and filter by compatible plugs (e.g. both Tesla plugs, J1772 (one SAE J1772 Charging Adapter is included free with the car). If one can charge w/CHAdeMO or CCS via optional adapters, add those too. CHAdeMO Adapter was quietly pulled from the US store months ago w/no explanation that I know of. I wouldn't recommend CCS w/a Tesla at this point (very long story). CCS1 on mature vehicles w/native CCS1 inlets and support is mostly ok (from my personal experience of tons of CCS charging my former '19 Bolt).
Finding NEMA 14-50 or other outlets beyond NEMA 5-15 (you'd need the right adapter, see Gen 2 NEMA Adapters) out in the wild (except for homes, campgrounds or RV parks) can be challenging. It's usually not worth the waste of time. You're better off looking for what I mentioned.
And, yes, all of NEMA connector - Wikipedia are NEMA plugs, not just 14-50.
BTW, when people keep pointing to random (mostly no-name) J1772 EVSEs on Amazon, I do NOT recommend that. The below are a few examples of reasons why:
Charge Port Meltdown,
Another “Which L2 Charger Should I Buy” Thread (ok, ok...
Stick w/a major reputable brand, hopefully UL-listed or equivalent. You are likely better off waiting for a Tesla mobile connector or wall connector to come back in stock than going w/random no-name ones on Amazon.
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yerEVan
Active Member
According to eletrek, even if you ordered before the removal of the mobile charger, you’re still not getting it :|
Update 2: According to Tesla’s chat, unless you’ve already delivery, Mobile chargers are now no longer included even though they were at time of purchase.
Update 2: According to Tesla’s chat, unless you’ve already delivery, Mobile chargers are now no longer included even though they were at time of purchase.
And that is simply pretty freaking low move on Tesla's part
It would be better if they just gave people the option to either take the car without the mobile charger or defer delivery so that they can ship the cars to people who don't need them immediately.
That's messed up. I am would have been able to charge on my CP Home until I got the WC installed if my vehicle had been delivered without a mobile charger but that's because I have a PHEV. Some people are getting Teslas as their first plug in vehicle and may not have anything to charge with, and I wouldn't recommend buying a cheap J1772 charger because the experience is so much better when using a Tesla charger.
I see your wink, but just to be clear, we've seen numerous cases of bad J1772 handles on Mustart EVSEs causing melted inlets. The below are a few on forums outside of some EV FB groups I'm on:Nonsense, more FUD regarding EVSE chargers on Amazon. YMMV
Charge port damage no warranty didn't use "Kia Factory Approved Charger"
I bought Kia Niro EV 2020 love it. Purchased MUSTART Level 2 Portable EV Charger from Amazon Warehouse. First time using charger I monitored it while...
www.insideevsforum.com
I would lump Mustart into the random no-name Chinese EVSEs.
Clipper Creek is no frills but has an awesome rep. ChargePoint, Juicebox, Webasto (Webasto to Acquire AeroVironment Electric Vehicle Charging and Test Systems Business) and Leviton should be ok, as examples. I'm not a fan of Siemens for numerous reasons. Some others like Grizzl-E and Emporia are too new for me to be able say. But for the most part, UL-listed or equivalent should be on the safer side to get.
If I had a Tesla, I would for sure rather wait for their mobile or wall connector to come back in stock than order random no-name EVSE from Amazon.
We've had the infamous GE Wattstation vs. '11 and '12 Leaf probably blowing diodes in the on-board charger finger pointing, which is a long story. At least GE is a huge company and they could coordinate w/Nissan vs. a fly-by-night no-name company that an automaker may not care about bothering with, if problems come up.
Blink EVSEs and some others (e.g. earlier Schneider + some others IIRC) used defective Rema J1772 handles that above 24 amps could melt inlets:
Blink / Rav4 Blows Out a Contactor Pin (with gory pics)
Update: My Rav4 was fixed under warranty, and I got a Camry rental for a week, also courtesy of Toyota. Of course, I don't think the Rav4 had anything to do with this, and Phil's IR thermometer testing indicates at least one other Blink/Rema handle got quite hot on one pin (opposite to my pin)...
www.mynissanleaf.com
Honda
Amid all the advancements to electric-powered vehicles and the stations that recharge them during the past few years, we can find plenty of reminders that we're still pretty new to all of this. In the latest case, the Honda Fit EV might not get along well with Ecotality's Blink charging...
www.autoblog.com
While Under Threat From OEMs, ECOtality Turns Down The Output On Chargers To Avoid Failures
Yes, That Is A Lovely Sunset In The Background On Monday, ECOtality filed an 8-K with the SEC saying the company had basically run out of money and was in danger of falling into bankruptcy in the "very near future" unless a new/unknown source of capital could be found. A Blink Residential EVSE...
insideevs.com
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HellsKitchen
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Now the cheaper mobile charging kit is out of stock as well. What a shitshow. I wonder if they'll give me my LRY deposit back. I thought I was going to be able to charge my car when I ordered it.
I have ordered their 10-30 gen 2 nema plug adapter for use with the factory cord. I assumed I was getting one. It shows 22 mph charge rate. I have a 30 amp breaker. Is there an aftermarket cord that plugs into a model 3 that charges as fast as the one that suppose to come with the car on my 10-30, 30 am system?
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed this.
I have 5 neighbor families, total 7 Tesla cars, all of them use mobile connector. your suspect is 100% wrong.I've never taken a poll esp. given that we have LOTS of Teslas at my work and free L2 charging (including numerous Tesla wall connectors).
That said, until the recent development of the mobile connector no longer being included, if a Tesla buyer/lessee asked on Slack at work or asked me directly, I'd also suggest they ignore prodding Tesla had (e.g. Home Charging and Wall Connector), just find out what outlets they have or max amperage circuit they support, then get the correct Gen 2 NEMA Adapters for their existing or future outlet instead of wasting $ on getting a Tesla wall connector installed.
For many US Tesla drivers, I suspect that charging away from home using their mobile connector is pretty rare or nil.
To add to what jcanoe said, to find charging on the road that is non-Tesla, strongly recommend one checks Plugshare (web site and app) and filter by compatible plugs (e.g. both Tesla plugs, J1772 (one SAE J1772 Charging Adapter is included free with the car). If one can charge w/CHAdeMO or CCS via optional adapters, add those too. CHAdeMO Adapter was quietly pulled from the US store months ago w/no explanation that I know of. I wouldn't recommend CCS w/a Tesla at this point (very long story). CCS1 on mature vehicles w/native CCS1 inlets and support is mostly ok (from my personal experience of tons of CCS charging my former '19 Bolt).
Finding NEMA 14-50 or other outlets beyond NEMA 5-15 (you'd need the right adapter, see Gen 2 NEMA Adapters) out in the wild (except for homes, campgrounds or RV parks) can be challenging. It's usually not worth the waste of time. You're better off looking for what I mentioned.
And, yes, all of NEMA connector - Wikipedia are NEMA plugs, not just 14-50.
BTW, when people keep pointing to random (mostly no-name) J1772 EVSEs on Amazon, I do NOT recommend that. The below are a few examples of reasons why:
Charge Port Meltdown,
Another “Which L2 Charger Should I Buy” Thread (ok, ok...
Stick w/a major reputable brand, hopefully UL-listed or equivalent. You are likely better off waiting for a Tesla mobile connector or wall connector to come back in stock than going w/random no-name ones on Amazon.
And, do they do a lot of charging using their mobile connector away from home?
I've been driving pure BEVs since end of July 2013. The only time I've ever charged my BEV w/my EV's L1 120 volt EVSE (that's all they come with) at someone's home was to once test their outlet because they were thinking of getting a Chevy Volt.
The other times I've used my L1 120 volt EVSE away from home were ages ago when work had limited L2 J1772 handles so I'd just use the 120 volt NEMA 5-15 outlets as a courtesy to stay out of the way (and it was enough to replenish my round trip commute) or in the past, some free 120 volt outlets (now gone) near some formerly free L2 public charging while waiting in line. That all ended many years ago for me, as there's no longer a need for that and the latter outlets are gone.
I don't disagree that there's a subset of US Tesla drivers who use their mobile connector to charge at home a lot or is their primary means of charging (note I told people to do so instead of wasting $ installing a Tesla wall connector), but they likely do it at 240 volts, not 120 volts (so not NEMA 5-15 nor 5-20).
I don't know how large that subset is... I doubt it's 50% or higher but I doubt it's lower than 10%.
I don’t think the apple analogy holds. First apple was an extremely mature brand. Many people were on like there 3rd or 4th iPhone. I had charging blocks all over the house (and every single 3rd party one works just as well, that cost 5 bucks). Years later I still haven’t had to buy one. Yes it saved them some margin. As for headphone jack I think they didn’t like it for the aesthetics of the phone.
I completely agree that they want to remove it, I think just like lumber support and radar they don’t want to admit they are having supply chain issues so came up with BS about no one using them. And what’s dumb is unlike those 2 examples they could just admit they can’t get them, tell everyone sorry and ship them in a month or 2. Sure some people might have a problem charging until it arrived but the community would understand.
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