TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker and becoming a Supporting Member. For more info: Support TMC

Model 3 at Intense Autocross Race

Discussion in 'Model 3: Driving Dynamics' started by Curt Renz, Apr 24, 2018.

  1. Curt Renz

    Curt Renz Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2013
    Messages:
    4,159
    Location:
    Chicagoland
     
    • Like x 6
    • Informative x 1
  2. 3laine

    3laine Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2018
    Messages:
    116
    Location:
    Florida
    Body control looks good. Obviously power out of corners should be impressive. I bet with some high rolling resistance tires it could put up some really good times!
     
  3. shrspeedblade

    shrspeedblade Rideshare Monkey

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2015
    Messages:
    1,032
    Location:
    CA, United States
    Car is clearly lacking front grip, as it tends to plow/understeer a fair bit, but dang if it doesn't claw its way out once it gets pointed the right direction!

    Probably the stock tires on the 18s, more grip would make a big difference, then see if it needs a bit more rear bar to help it rotate.
     
  4. Ticobird

    Ticobird Lovin the Tesla Life

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2014
    Messages:
    276
    Location:
    Hazel Green, AL
    I wonder how that time compares to a BMW 3 series at the same Autocross event on the same day?
     
  5. Uncle Paul

    Uncle Paul Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2013
    Messages:
    3,474
    Location:
    Canyon Lake,CA
    Said it compared favorably to a Mazda Miata.

    Pretty impressive for a stock car with a novice driver.

    The future of autocross will belong to EV's. Probably all wheel drive.

    Saw how they began to dominate races like Pikes Peak.

    Short races will go to EV technology. Longer road courses will go to Hybrids, where the regenerative braking benefits can come into play.
     
  6. Daniel in SD

    Daniel in SD Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2018
    Messages:
    3,782
    Location:
    San Diego
    Since the Miata is in a faster class than a Model S it would be very impressive if the Model 3 is as fast as a Miata. The Model 3 should be faster at autocross than the Model S since it's narrower and lighter.
     
    • Like x 1
  7. Matt_CRNA

    Matt_CRNA Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2016
    Messages:
    11
    Location:
    Oahu, Hawai'i
    What class would the Model 3 be classed in? D stock?
     
    • Like x 1
  8. Ticobird

    Ticobird Lovin the Tesla Life

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2014
    Messages:
    276
    Location:
    Hazel Green, AL
    #8 Ticobird, Apr 26, 2018
    Last edited: Apr 26, 2018
    • Like x 1
  9. xmetal

    xmetal Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2014
    Messages:
    178
    Location:
    Sarasota, FL
    I did serious AutoX for about 5 years and had good cars, but thinking of the instant power out of corners that the Tesla would give you...man....that would be just awesome. I can recall so many times when I was yelling "COME ON!!!" to the car, waiting for the revs to get up there and give me the power.

    I might take the Model 3 out, though getting some good summer only tires on there would be nice. Nothing will compare to my Integra Type R on race tires and suspension, but I'm pretty sure you can have a fun afternoon in a Model 3. :D
     
    • Like x 2
  10. apkom

    apkom Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2018
    Messages:
    18
    Location:
    San Jose, CA USA
    At our yesterday club autoX event we had red Tesla Model 3 with competent driver with street legal racing compound tires: RA71's on 18" sport wheels. He's times were just 1/2 second slower then mine (Lotus Elise with LSD on similar compound R888's) on a 50s course. I'm in shock. I'm rusty now but used to autocross a lot on 2000-2009. Very impressive times! The power consumption was like 1500Wt/mi for the run ;-)
     
    • Like x 5
    • Informative x 1
  11. Matt_CRNA

    Matt_CRNA Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2016
    Messages:
    11
    Location:
    Oahu, Hawai'i
    What was he classed as?
     
  12. apkom

    apkom Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2018
    Messages:
    18
    Location:
    San Jose, CA USA
    Since this Lotus club event SCCA rules apply just loosely.
    We have single class for all non-Lotus cars where we apply PAX index. But I'm not sure how this one will be PAX'ed. The results will be calculated/published much later.

    Luke, the driver of the model 3 works at Tesla and deals with many aspects of what'd be relevant for AutoX from what I found.
    Interesting bit of information I learned from him that is not a good news for Model 3 AutoX future: He said he could have run tighter but intentionally left more room between the cones and rocker panels knowing from inside how that area made. Implying they'd be dented on impact. this sucks as I'm tempted to try my own Model 3 one of the next events;-(
     
  13. DR61

    DR61 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2016
    Messages:
    535
    Location:
    Gold River, CA
    I wonder if this driver disabled traction & stability control in some way.
     
  14. apkom

    apkom Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2018
    Messages:
    18
    Location:
    San Jose, CA USA
    I doubt it. apparently traction control is not that intrusive

    anyways. the results are posted search for #943 raw time.
    He was not classed at all - fun group. I doubt we'd even figure how to PAX him for lack of data.
     
    • Informative x 1
  15. apkom

    apkom Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2018
    Messages:
    18
    Location:
    San Jose, CA USA
    • Like x 1
  16. Doug_G

    Doug_G Lead Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2010
    Messages:
    17,829
    Location:
    Ottawa, Canada
    Used to autocross my Roadster. It was put in B class. Understeery even with camber mods and stocky tires. Solid mid-pack performance.

    Interesting to see how a 3 would do with an experienced driver.
     

Share This Page

  • About Us

    Formed in 2006, Tesla Motors Club (TMC) was the first independent online Tesla community. Today it remains the largest and most dynamic community of Tesla enthusiasts. Learn more.
  • Do you value your experience at TMC? Consider becoming a Supporting Member of Tesla Motors Club. As a thank you for your contribution, you'll get nearly no ads in the Community and Groups sections. Additional perks are available depending on the level of contribution. Please visit the Account Upgrades page for more details.


    SUPPORT TMC