Model 3 - LR AWD Waiting Room

[Zane Liu]

How long does it take for the factory to make a model 3?

What is the time line for producing a model 3?

teslamotorsclub.com

Thanks!

 

[codenameku]

Since I have the two week EDD, should I receive a VIN shortly??

If you dont get anything today, you more than likely will get a updated EDD tomorrow on day 2 of your 2 week with a pushed back date.

 

[phaheem]

That is not typical. I ordered the 14-50 adapter and it was shipped in a nice black Tesla box with the tear open perforation.

Yeah this also came in a “nice black Tesla box” with the shipping labels slapped directly on it, and the “tear open perforation” was already torn open

 

[RobertsM3SR]

Still at a 4week window first day of EDD is September 4 hope to see some action in here. I wonder if anyone has gotten a VIN during a 4 week window or do I gotta wait till it shrinks a little

 

[Cho22]

Still at a 4week window first day of EDD is September 4 hope to see some action in here. I wonder if anyone has gotten a VIN during a 4 week window or do I gotta wait till it shrinks a little

Probably gotta wait til it shrinks. Next step is probably an updated 2 week EDD window.

 

[MSM4thewin]

Just got an EDD update, not exactly what I was hoping for - December 2022

First time I have seen just one month with no exact dates.

 

[095179005]

Still at a 4week window first day of EDD is September 4 hope to see some action in here. I wonder if anyone has gotten a VIN during a 4 week window or do I gotta wait till it shrinks a little

I myself never got a 2 week EDD window - EDD2 (appeared after I completed as much of my order as possible) was Feb. 25 - Mar. 25. EDD1 was a 3 month window. Got my VIN 2 weeks before the start of EDD2. Note this was before the mass of orders due to gas prices.
I've seen only a handful of others, so it does seem to be a rare thing.

 

[phaheem]

EDD pushed back to Sept 19 - Oct 3 (previously 9/11-10/09 (4 week window)) but this is my first two-week window. Someone please remind me what the two-week window signifies?

 

[SoCal_Love]

Just received my two week window - September 17th - October 1st.

When is your order date? Specs?

 

[095179005]

EDD pushed back to Sept 19 - Oct 3 (previously 9/11-10/09) but it’s my first two-week window. Someone please remind me what the two-week window signifies?

Means instead of a statistically insignificant chance of getting a VIN, you now have a decent chance of getting a VIN.
You're close to reaching the light at the end of the tunnel.

Tesla is really cutting it close with you - EOQ rush/push and all. There's really not much they're able to do in regards to subjecting you to another pushback, if they want to have you included in their EOQ delivery metrics - meaning they've painted themselves into a corner trying to get you delivered by Sept. 31.

 

[guerro]

Yeah this also came in a “nice black Tesla box” with the shipping labels slapped directly on it, and the “tear open perforation” was already torn open

Yeah, that is how mine was shipped. The UPS label should have been across the perforated pull strip. Sounds like someone opened yours while in transit.

 

[guerro]

How long after taking delivery will my car update its software?

 

[095179005]

How long after taking delivery will my car update its software?

Note: This discussion was originally part of Post #1 of Thread Trying to Make Sense of Recent Software Versions.... Apparently, the information table there became so large that extra language had to be jetisoned.

Discussion: What If Your Car is “Frozen” at a Particular Software Version?

Tesla owners have come to enjoy fairly frequent software (firmware) updates that can revitalize and improve vehicle operations. Customers now anticipate and look forward to major software roll-outs that bring exciting and innovative new features. A downside is that software update delays can create understandable anxiety and frustration. But not all complaints are fully justified. Based on TMC posts, there are a number of more-or-less legitimate reasons why a car has not received a particular software update.

• New cars may not at first receive software updates, sometimes for months.
• Tesla software roll-outs may be slow-paced and/or target subsets of cars rather than the whole population.
• Releases can seemingly drag out for days and even weeks. This can be normal.
• Updates may not apply to specific model-years, regions/countries, MCUs, and vehicles with particular hardware.
• For various known and unknown reasons, not all cars get all updates and at the same time.
• Updates may sometimes be hindered by other factors (e.g., inadequate WiFi connectivity).

Some tips, observations, and suggestions:

1. If you are in the USA, read Tesla’s description about its software updates here: Tesla Software Updates (USA). (For other countries, check your Tesla website for support on this issue.)
   
   
2. Be aware that if your car is new, it probably received special factory-installed firmware (e.g., 2021.35.102.2) that (a) is apparently intended to stay with the car for an unspecified initial “breaking in” period (my words, not an official description) and (b) takes time (e.g., 1 to 2 months) to be replaced by regular software updates (“Production Builds”).
   
   As I say in Post #3, below, my guess is that the reason for this is so that the car can be "tested" for a couple of months to iron out any bugs, electronic or otherwise, before it starts receiving normal software updates. That way, if the owner finds any problems they will not be due to new software.
   
   
3. Tesla releases updates in sporadic batches or waves, often slowly, seemingly car-by-car, over time. This is probably so that if serious unforeseen problems materialize any resulting impacts can be contained within smaller groups of cars (rather than world-wide) and the range of impacts minimized. (See TMC Forum Reference; Post #14.)
   
   
4. Sometimes otherwise seemingly eligible cars may skip updates for one reason or another. (See TMC Forum Reference; Post #9.) The bottom line: a car (or its owner) that has not received an update does not necessarily have a problem.
   
   
5. It is not unusual for Tesla cars to have different software at any one time. That is pretty much standard. There are many reasons for this.
   
   
6. At the same time, if you are “frozen” at a particular software version, you are probably not alone. There may be many other cars in exactly the same situation. Unfortunately, most of us cannot be privy to all the decision-making that goes into Tesla software development and distribution, or necessarily aware of what other drivers are experiencing. And unless you follow software upload tracking sites like Teslascope or Teslafi (which sample their respective customer bases) you may be unaware of the extents of different roll-outs and the varieties of different software versions out there.
   
   
7. The Thread mentioned above was intended to help answer some (not all) questions about late 2021 software updates:
   (a) Determine where you are in the greater scheme of software versions.
   (b) Confirm that you are in a normal "Production Build" or special "FSD Beta Testing" build track. (These are not official names.)
   (c) See what features your car should have (subject to certain restrictions).
   (d) Evaluate the differences in features between the two "branches" (or "tracks").
   (e) Help establish (up to a certain point) whether your car truly should have a particular software version.
   (f) Understand more in general about the way Tesla releases its software updates.
   
   But Post #1 of that Thread cannot expand forever. Instead, readers are directed to not a tesla app for ongoing information about subsequent Tesla software releases.
   
   
8. Based on TMC Forum comments, there may not be much you can do to speed up or initiate software updates. In this case, patience really is a virtue. However, here are a few tips from TMC commenters:
   
   
9. In your car's (central display) "Software" screen, change the setting for software updates to "Advanced."
   
   
10. If you do not have "Premium Connectivity," be sure your car has extended access to a solid, reliable, WiFi network where it is routinely parked.
    
    
11. Some posters suggest that it is important that the car "sleeps" occasionally. (May not help; can't hurt.)
    
    
12. Since owner's can learn about software updates in at least two ways--from the center display screen (under "Software") and in the Tesla App--it may be helpful to have a reasonably up-to-date Android phone or iPhone with the latest Tesla app version.
    
    
13. If you are in either the Early Access or the FSD Beta Testing programs, and have not received software updates you think you should, you can try contacting Tesla at [email protected] and [email protected], respectively.
    
    
14. Some (not all) have had luck having ("Production Build") software pushed by Tesla Service.
    (a) Use the Tesla App.
    (b) Under "Service" / "Request Service" / "Software" check the "Update" circle.
    (c) Add something like "No software updates - Please check" in an accompanying message.
    
    Service can apparently check your car remotely, see if software updates have failed, and push an available (non-FSD Beta) update. (See TMC Forum Reference; Post #3.)
    
    
15. If you are applying for or already in the FSD Beta testing program, you can opt out on your car's center display screen (under "Autopilot," I believe) or by contacting the FSD Beta program email (in #13, above).
    
    
16. Use the TMC Forum search function--there are many threads and posts that discuss software updates and downloads. For example, try this Thread: When Do I Get MY FSD Beta Update.
    
    
17. Finally, concerning those waiting for an update to allow them to become FSD Beta testers--with the large increase in numbers of (USA) FSD Beta testers around the start of 2022, it may be that Tesla reached some kind of (arbitrary?) limit on the amount of additional incoming data it could handle or that it needed. In addition, FSD Beta testing has now (as of 2/22) spread to Canada (which will supply a new test area). So otherwise viable test candidates--those with FSD and good test scores--continue to find themselves waiting (seemingly endlessly) for invitations to become actual testers. There may be no specific reason why these invitations do not materialize, other than just 'the luck of the draw'--i.e., Tesla has enough testers right now.
    
    
18. As always, if you have any successful ideas, please share.

I had the factory-stable software until 2-3 weeks after delivery.

 

[Cho22]

How long after taking delivery will my car update its software?

People say a couple weeks at least

 

[ZZ118]

So for everyone not here last end of quarter push. Tomorrow starts the last month of the quarter. Historically there is a massive push from Tesla. If you are east coast and don't get a vin within the next week or so you are likely not in this push. This is because tesla needs to actually deliver the car to you to count as a sale. They don't like having orders sitting on the train or lot by the end of the month since they can't count this in the quarterly report.

However if you are west coast all bets are off. The next month make sure you are standby and ready to take your order asap. Tesla will not hold the car for you. Start getting insurance and financing ready because you can get a vin anytime and delivery same or next day. This applies to anyone on the west coast or is close enough to not require rail.

If you don't get a car by 9/30 expect to wait. The factory will go into maintenance road and no new cars will be made for about 2 weeks. October is not a good month for this reason. They will have a few left over cars they will ship but overall don't count on getting a car in October if you don't get it in September.

 

[VT_EE]

First two-week EDD showed up: Sept 24-Oct 8

 

[Zane Liu]

My EDD just jumped out from two weeks to four weeks again. Now it’s Sep. 15 to Oct. 13. I’m hoping this will change as I’ve seen some EDDs jump back and forth.

 

[phaheem]

Then yesterday, I got my two week window, 9/7-9/21. No VIN yet. I'm located in Seattle, so it looks like I'll be part of the end-of-quarter west coast push.

It's getting real!

another data point

OD 6/12/22 (MSM/White/19"/no FSD)
new EDD 9/4-9/18, old EDD 8/31-9/28
PNW area

Just received my two week window - September 17th - October 1st.

Since I have the two week EDD, should I receive a VIN shortly??

First two-week EDD showed up: Sept 24-Oct 8

EDD pushed back to Sept 19 - Oct 3 (previously 9/11-10/09 (4 week window)) but this is my first two-week window.

The end of quarter push is real with all these 2-week window updates!

 

[Cesla]

Ordered M3LR, white/white, 19”tire, July 11, EDD changed from Oct22-Jan23, Oct-Dec, Nov-Feb23. Then received VIN 8/25, Today scheduled delivery 9/07

 

[kevinquisition]

8/4 order, white/white, aero, no FSD updated from Nov 2022-feb 2023 to December 2022 today. Columbus, OH if that matters.