Model 3 Projected 0-60 Times

[R.S]

Let's all keep in mind that there are a handful of cars at around $40k-$50k that have 0-60 mph times in the low 4s

But none of them are premium sedans. Comparing it with a muscle car is rather pointless, because the Model 3 will have tech, those muscle cars just won't have. The 56k stingray only does 0-60 in 4 seconds and it is a Chevy, with a mass produced V8, that only has space for two adults.

With AWD mid-low 4's isn't that tricky for cars even in the mid 30k range - A Subaru STI or Focus RS will do 4.7sec 0-60 stock and 4.4 with a ~500 dollar tune. Heck, a 26k WRX can do 5.0 and 4.7 with a quick tune.

I'd be surprised if the awd 3 isn't capable of being in this ballpark - (while obviously not being so clutch abusive)

I'd be surprised, if you'd be able to buy a 26k Model 3, period. And I wouldn't start comparing a Focus, to the Model 3.

To have a good comparison, of what to beat. Look at Cadillac, Audi, BMW, Mercedes. Not some boy racer cheap cars, someone decided to put an expensive drivetrain in. It will be borderline impossible, to build an equal bang for the buck Model 3, since it is already 20k more in base trim, than a base Focus.

If you want a quick car cheaply, don't even start looking at premium/luxury cars.

 

[JeffK]

But none of them are premium sedans. Comparing it with a muscle car is rather pointless, because the Model 3 will have tech, those muscle cars just won't have. The 56k stingray only does 0-60 in 4 seconds and it is a Chevy, with a mass produced V8, that only has space for two adults.



I'd be surprised, if you'd be able to buy a 26k Model 3, period. And I wouldn't start comparing a Focus, to the Model 3.

To have a good comparison, of what to beat. Look at Cadillac, Audi, BMW, Mercedes. Not some boy racer cheap cars, someone decided to put an expensive drivetrain in. It will be borderline impossible, to build an equal bang for the buck Model 3, since it is already 20k more in base trim, than a base Focus.

If you want a quick car cheaply, don't even start looking at premium/luxury cars.

Define "premium sedan" as it relates Model 3. Is it a certain je ne sais quoi?

Why not compare a Focus RS to a Model 3. Elon said Model 3 should be better compared to any car in its price range

The Focus RS at $36-40k:

- Physically smaller
- More cargo space (it's a hatchback)
- AWD with dynamic torque vectoring
- 0-60 in 4.6 seconds (motortrend)
- Range of 250 miles on a full tank.
- 10 speaker system including subwoofer
- Support for Apple CarPlay and Android Auto
- Optional heated front seats and steering wheel
- Optional Navigation

 

[juanmedina]

The 4 door Mercedes CLA45 AMG has a 0-60 of 4.1sec and it starts at 50k.


You can get an used lexus IS-F with less than 60k miles for 27k and it does 0-60 in 3.9sec

 

[R.S]

Define "premium sedan" as it relates Model 3. Is it a certain je ne sais quoi?

Why not compare a Focus RS to a Model 3. Elon said Model 3 should be better compared to any car in its price range

The Focus RS at $36-40k:

- Physically smaller
- More cargo space (it's a hatchback)
- AWD with dynamic torque vectoring
- 0-60 in 4.6 seconds (motortrend)
- Range of 250 miles on a full tank.
- 10 speaker system including subwoofer
- Support for Apple CarPlay and Android Auto
- Optional heated front seats and steering wheel
- Optional Navigation

The Model 3 will surely have:
-optional autopilot
-more interior space
-big touchscreen standard
-pure electric, with a range of more than 215 miles every day
-some standard safety features
-a brand name that isn't Ford


The Model 3 will maybe have:
-not just plastic panels
-navigation standard
-heated seats standard

There is no way the base 3 will have a 0-60 of 5.6 and 4.6 at the same time. So if you value 0-60 (and cargo space) above all, the Focus will be the better car for the money. If you want something more balanced, the 3 will be better, IMO.

 

[DFibRL8R]

The recently released guide Tesla says Model 3 will have fewer than 100 configurations to Model S’ more than 1,500
that compared the specs of Model S to Model 3 looked to me like more of a marketing push to try to sell more Model S to folks on the Model 3 waiting list. I think they are soft selling the 3 which makes sense because demand is so high with hundreds of thousands reserved compared to Model S. Look at the delivery estimate of 1 year+ for the Model 3 -v- 30 days or less for the Model S. I don't think we should look at that marketing effort as a definite indicator of what configurations will be available when.

 

[JeffK]

The Model 3 will surely have:
...
-more interior space

I don't know... maybe

For comparisons of passenger volume:
Toyota Camry has 102.7 cu ft.
Tesla Model S/X have 94 cu ft.
Ford Focus RS 91 cu ft.
Model 3 = ?
(according to US EPA)

 

[ikjadoon]

FWIW, Tesla confirmed the 5.6s 0-to-60 time.

http://jalopnik.com/the-tesla-model-3-will-do-0-60-in-5-6-seconds-1795518431

 

[Garlan Garner]

FWIW, Tesla confirmed the 5.6s 0-to-60 time.

http://jalopnik.com/the-tesla-model-3-will-do-0-60-in-5-6-seconds-1795518431

Is that the single motor configuration 0-60 time?

 

[juanmedina]

Is that the single motor configuration 0-60 time?

yes

 

[Garlan Garner]

yes

Drum Roll please.....

And...what say you is the 0-60 time for the dual motor?


.......stay tuned!

 

[tracksyde]

Drum Roll please.....

And...what say you is the 0-60 time for the dual motor?


.......stay tuned!

My guess: 5.3 seconds

thats based purely on the advertised 0-60 of the S75D which is 5.2s

 

[Garlan Garner]

My guess: 5.3 seconds

thats based purely on the advertised 0-60 of the S75D which is 5.2s

So the single motor is 5.6 and the dual is 5.3? Hmmmmm........that doesn't sound right.

 

[tracksyde]

S75 is 5.5s

S75D is 5.2s

 

[Garlan Garner]

S75 is 5.5s

S75D is 5.2s

Do you have a link for that? I just can't believe that an additional motor would only provide and additional 0.3s quicker time.


The Model S 75 is 5.5 0-60
The Model P100D is 2.5.

That's what I would expect. Half the time. Unless its software limited or broken.

 

[JeffK]

Do you have a link for that? I just can't believe that an additional motor would only provide and additional 0.3s quicker time.

tesla.com

It's because the rear motor is smaller in the dual setup.

You'd think the AWD model will compete in the space where there are a lot of sub 5 second cars...

 

[Garlan Garner]

tesla.com

It's because the rear motor is smaller in the dual setup.

That's what I'm looking at for the Model S.

Add a smaller motor and your 0-60 time gets cut in half.
Order a Tesla Model S | Tesla


The Model 3 ( on the tesla website ) only shows a 0-60 time of "Under 6 seconds".
Model 3 | Tesla

 

[tracksyde]

Assuming the 75D can do this "naturally" by just having dual motors, I'd assume the 3 could do the same if not better. But since Tesla doesnt want the 3 to be faster than the S, I would also assume this extends to the base D configuration also.


Order a Tesla Model S | Tesla

 

[Garlan Garner]

Assuming the 75D can do this "naturally" by just having dual motors, I'd assume the 3 could do the same if not better. But since Tesla doesnt want the 3 to be faster than the S, I would also assume this extends to the base D configuration also.


Order a Tesla Model S | Tesla

View attachment 228380

Who says they don't want it to be faster? Link?

The dual motor Model 3 will be faster than the Model s 75.

 

[Garlan Garner]

Assuming the 75D can do this "naturally" by just having dual motors, I'd assume the 3 could do the same if not better. But since Tesla doesnt want the 3 to be faster than the S, I would also assume this extends to the base D configuration also.


Order a Tesla Model S | Tesla

View attachment 228380

The 75D is software limited. The 75D and the P100D have the same motors. They are software limiting the motor torque to save the battery. The 75D is a waste of money.

I'm talking about what could happen ( P100D )....not what Tesla is doing.


For example...take your Model S in for service today. Tesla will give you a P100D Model S loaner right?

Step on the accelerator of that P100D and you will get the performance of the old Model S 60 with a top speed of 85MPH.

 

[JeffK]

The 75D is software limited. The 75D and the P100D have the same motors. They are software limiting the motor torque to save the battery. The 75D is a waste of money.

I'm talking about what could happen ( P100D )....not what Tesla is doing.

The front motor maybe, but not the rear. I don't know about the S100D