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Model S Accident/Fire

Discussion in 'Model S: Driving Dynamics' started by joshuaeven, Oct 2, 2013.

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    Tesla posted an official blog entry from Elon on Friday 4-Oct addressing this.

    Statements from Tesla (before blog was posted):
    Video of fire (warning NSFW language):


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    Useful articles on the incident:
    Tesla Model S Fire | Car Safety - Consumer Reports News

    Your Guide To The Tesla Model S Fire (And Why Its Not A Big Deal) - Jalopnik

    Surprise, Cars Sometimes Catch Fire When Crashed! Why Everyone Needs To Take A Breath On Tesla - Motor Authority
    Elon responds: http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/model-s-fire
     
  3. mknox

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    Holy cow! That does not look good!
     
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    Agreed. It looks focused under the front of the car. Impressed Jalopnik managed to keep it in their pants.
     
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    Some sort of fluid...brake fluid? It all looks very 'routine' by the firefighters and they're right in there as if they're not worried at all about an 'explosion' and they know exactly what's burning etc..
     
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    Given that the fire is spreading on the ground downhill I would say the car got caught a gas fire of the vehicle that it struck...

    Battery fires don't produce streams of burning liquid
     
  7. Denarius

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    I hope the occupants are ok! The car is torn up but the passenger compartment looks to be in good shape.
     
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    Yes, I thought it might be gas from the other vehicle as well. There's just no 'urgency' in any of these photos and as you say, with the fire going downhill...it's definitely some kind of flammable liquid. They put it out easily and quickly. No biggie. And no need for people to get all concerned about it in terms of it being a fire.
     
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    Hard to tell if there are streams of burning liquid or if it's molten plastic or something. The one image where the "liquid" seems to be flowing downhill, it is actually hosed downhill by the firefighters.

    That the fire at the front mostly eliminates the drive train as a cause, though. It could in theory be the battery, but that seems quite unlikely. More relevant causes could be brakes, a low voltage short, or something similar. There are no other damaged vehicles in sight, so a collision doesn't seem very likely.
     
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    I find it a little troubling that they (a) chose the headline they did and (b) included zero information on the occupants. Was it a vehicle death or a human death? They (IMO) intentionally chose a title to make that vague (or they just have fail editorial staff and made an honest "mistake").

    That said, is the car "dead"? From what we've seen previously (GasDoc for example), that is definitely not "known" from the photos that are shown in the article.
     
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    They included zero information on anything. They just included a picture, and a bunch of speculation.
     
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    What did you expect from Jalopnik?
     
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    Not much. They are about as "fair and balanced" as faux news.
     
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    FOX news going to love those pictures :D
     
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    Point of clarification: I used the word "troubling" not "surprising". It's Jalopnik, so this behavior isn't at all surprising to me.
     
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    I think the pictures make it very clear that the fire had nothing to do with the battery pack. The firefighter sprayed the car down and put out the fire. Lithium and water, as some of the comments are trying to imply, had no effect in this fire.

    It certainly looks like it was a serious accident.
     
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    Maybe the owner was carrying gas for the lawn mower in the frunk.
     
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    I was wondering the same thing myself.
     
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    Mods, please move the CO video post from the Short-Term thread to here. Thanks.
     
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    [Moderator Note: Language warning for video]


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    Lol.. or delete it.. I just cross posted it.. :)
     

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