CharlieLab
Member
My March 2017 MX 90D (yep I got one of the last ones off the line) hasn’t degraded too much. @26,000 showing 229 miles @90% SoC. Around 258 @100%. I’d say I’ve lost 3 miles of range. Not too shabby.
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Don't want to sound stupid but...
Last night I bought a May 2016 build X P90D w/ 14k miles. Battery said range had 195 miles at that time. When we drove home at night in the rain the 45 mile journey the range dropped by 75. Maybe because of weather, heater, etc.
Does the range allow for the fact that I have 22" rims? Does the car figure out range on actual past data like that?
I bought it at Carmax and can refund it within 7 days. After reading this thread I think I might. It's stunning. And a good price at $83,999. But I'd rather buy a 100D. Don't need fast.
Last night I bought a May 2016 build X P90D w/ 14k miles. Battery said range had 195 miles at that time. When we drove home at night in the rain the 45 mile journey the range dropped by 75. Maybe because of weather, heater, etc.
Does the range allow for the fact that I have 22" rims? Does the car figure out range on actual past data like that?
I bought it at Carmax and can refund it within 7 days. After reading this thread I think I might. It's stunning. And a good price at $83,999. But I'd rather buy a 100D. Don't need fast.
No and No. (Though the Energy app will use the last 5/15/30 miles of driving and give you an estimated range.)
forkee
Member
Wow. That is crazy bad... but all of these degradation for the 90k batteries have zero recourse, correct? So if it continues to drop to sub 200 miles, there is nothing that any of can do, correct?
Our MX 90D is in its second winter in New York. Last week, with temps in the teens and 20's, (car is garaged overnight) 30 miles of non-highway driving consumed 100 miles of charge. With temps in the 40's this week, consumption is only twice milage driven.Expected battery degradation or something for the SC to look at?
According to my SC, it does calculate range based on driving styles and modifies for that.
Does anyone know at what % of degradation the warranty kicks in? Does age of car play into decision from Tesla? The way that the warranty is written is very open ended, which is very surprising. I've lost another few miles and starting to approach the lower 230's for a 100% charge. I know from this thread there are people much lower than that for a 90D X.
Work has been crazy so I've not attempted to engage the Service center yet, but I'm just wondering what are other people's experiences?
Work has been crazy so I've not attempted to engage the Service center yet, but I'm just wondering what are other people's experiences?
There is none for the S&X, the warranty specifically says that gradual degradation is not covered. The only thing covered is a "failure" of the battery. (For the Model 3 it does, but the percent it kicks in at is 70%.)
bionichomer
Member
I purchased my first Tesla (also my first EV) this past December. Can you guys see if my calculation and assumptions sound correct?
2016 Model X P90D
about 21k miles now
22" wheels
90% SOC = 212mi (December and January outdoor temps in the southeast roughly 30F - 70F)
100% SOC = unknown (never charged to 100% and purchased car used)
estimated 100% = 212/0.9 = 236mi
assume 100% SOC originally was 250 mi
degradation = 1 - (236/250) = 0.06 = 6%
Does that sound right? Did I calculate correctly? My X (purple dot) sits below the red line on the chart attached.
2016 Model X P90D
about 21k miles now
22" wheels
90% SOC = 212mi (December and January outdoor temps in the southeast roughly 30F - 70F)
100% SOC = unknown (never charged to 100% and purchased car used)
estimated 100% = 212/0.9 = 236mi
assume 100% SOC originally was 250 mi
degradation = 1 - (236/250) = 0.06 = 6%
Does that sound right? Did I calculate correctly? My X (purple dot) sits below the red line on the chart attached.
That looks correct. My 2016 X 90D charged to 215mi at 90% today. That puts me at 215/.9 = 239mi compared to the original 257. I'm at 7% degradation.
The chart you show; is that for 90kWh packs only, or for all reporting vehicles? Because that makes quite a difference. I'm willing to bet 90Ds are heavily represented below the fitted curve.
X 90D March 2016 build, VIN 1500's, 27000 miles. 80% charge = 200 miles; therefore 100% charge should be around 250 miles. So about 3% degradation. I haven't done many full charges/discharges and very rarely supercharge (a few times per year).
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