It seems to be working much better on my car, after your trip let us know how it went.50.6 my car loved to stay close to the center line and would slow down just ever so slightly when it past another car.
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I'm not sure why this is even still in doubt, the Tesla statement was clear enough:
After August 2017 is HW2.5, but still MCU1 until around March 2018...
This would indicate, that AFTER FSD-Upgrade, Sentry mode and dashcam will be available for all exAP2.0 cars.
ahkahn
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...and that's why the driver is to monitor it... My hands are on the wheel and if it tries to jerk back over it cannot overpower my hands...
You must be an unsafe driver if you're allowing it to jerk back and forth on it's own volition.
Because there's s change to the wiring loom that makes it uneconomical!
Finish the sentence!
Since the FSD computer is now available and according to yesterday's presentation has been installed in Model S and X for the last few months why would it not make sense to begin retrofitting AP2+ cars that have already purchased FSD now? They would be ahead of the game once FSD features are released and help avoid a glut of request.
ucmndd
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1) I wouldn't assume that the board is at the level of "volume production" right now that allows them to not only meet manufacturing need but also build up a multi-hundred-thousand unit inventory for swaps.
2) I don't think Tesla is in any position at this point to burden their balance sheet or completely overwhelmed service infrastructure with optional activities.
1. Then I would suggest they stop selling FSD to AP2+ cars until they have such capacity.
2. Burdening their balance sheet? The funds are already on their balance sheet from preselling FSD. Optional activities, really? Didn't it become an obligation when they sold FSD under the premise that the car has everything needed for FSD other than a future OTA software update?
ucmndd
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Lol, suggest all you want, I'm not sure you're gonna get much traction suggesting they should stop accepting $5,000 from people who want to give it to them.
Long term obligation, certainly. Must-do right now? Not at all. There's no feature in production that necessitates the new hardware and likely won't be for quite some time. They have not a lot of incentive to burden their service operation with that task right now in a time when they're struggling to succeed at just the basics.
Are you suggesting that Elon is lying to us? Or are you suggesting his going to grab the cash from hords of Johnny come latelies and abandone those who funded the project. Kick Starter doesn't even do that, do they?
His statements yesterday left no doubt that L4 at a minimum would be delivered by year end. This year. No question mark.
His statements yesterday left no doubt that L4 at a minimum would be delivered by year end. This year. No question mark.
ucmndd
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You must be new here.
I was enticed to purchase in late 2016 at the height of the autopilot 2.0 "full self driving" promises and faked demo. 2.5 years later I'm still waiting for the enhanced autopilot suite promised in December 2016 to be feature complete, let alone a whiff of full self driving.
The idea that any Tesla will have true L4 autonomy enabled by the end of this year requires a massive suspension of disbelief even by Elon standards. I'm sure we'll see a few incremental "FSD" features that require complete driver supervision just like now, and it's highly likely that they'll work just fine on AP 2.5 - pushing the date for mandatory HW3 upgrades even farther out.
whitex
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Because it would cost Tesla money. Don't worry, Elon already planned the excuse. Notice he mentioned yesterday that the next AP chip is already half done. So my guess is the story for AP2.x customers will be "no point going to AP3 for you, wait for AP4 which is so much better and coming soon".
You obviously didn't see my tongue in cheek. Got some work to do on my sarcasm.You must be new here.
I was enticed to purchase in late 2016 at the height of the autopilot 2.0 "full self driving" promises and faked demo. 2.5 years later I'm still waiting for the enhanced autopilot suite promised in December 2016 to be feature complete, let alone a whiff of full self driving.
The idea that any Tesla will have true L4 autonomy enabled by the end of this year requires a massive suspension of disbelief even by Elon standards. I'm sure we'll see a few incremental "FSD" features that require complete driver supervision just like now, and it's highly likely that they'll work just fine on AP 2.5 - pushing the date for mandatory HW3 upgrades even farther out.
ucmndd
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My bad. Getting harder by the day to tell who's serious here and who's not!
whitex
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We need a "sarcasm" emoji.My bad. Getting harder by the day to tell who's serious here and who's not!
SpudLime
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Did anyone else pickup the fact that Elon said during his part of the demo that he said only cars built after January 2016 would get FSD?
He said it would be too expensive to replace the parts in the car to get FSD.
He said it would be too expensive to replace the parts in the car to get FSD.
Actually I think he said more like October 2016 which is when they started building cars with AP2. January 2016 were AP1 and that's what they ate not going to retrofit.
SpudLime
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