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That would’ve been a fine explanation, except i never got more that 280 miles shown on MYLR.Is something wrong? No
Should you take it in to be looked at? Also no, unless you want to waste your time with tesla trying to explain to you why nothing is wrong.
For a VERY "TL ; DR" version, EPA range only applies under driving like the EPA test, which is like 42MPH. There is also a more battery use in the cold.
If you want more explanation than that, there are several threads here on the same topic, and I can also point you to a 185 page (page, not post) thread in the model 3 subforum that is on the same basic topic. To save you the time of looking at that, no, nothing is wrong.
That would’ve been a fine explanation, except i never got more that 280 miles shown on MYLR.
Perhaps different EPA estimated my 4 yo e-golf at 125 range, and i drove 140 miles multiple times, same weather, same driving style, same no AC when i compare. Degradation is 6% in 4 years too. Costed me 12k + tax new, lol.
ID4 same story, real range is aligned with EPA expectations.
energy use is energy use. seat heaters aren’t “free” in ICE cars. They require even more energy since there are efficiency losses in converting energy from combustion to electricity. Heat from the heater, yes, as it is a waste product of burning gas. But this little stuff isn’t what we’re talking about.Definitely something different as an ICE vehicle simply does not halve the distance in extreme cold. Batteries are less efficient, need to be warmed up via itself draining juice not to mention seat heaters and heat which are all "free" so to say in an ice. Although there is a difference in cold with ICE vehicles, it is not even close to what an EV loses in comparison.
I have this same experience and it's because you're driving at 75-80mph. I have a commute several times a month that's 150 miles round trip. The speed limit is 70mph for 80% of the trip and I notice when I drive 70-85mph the battery drains. But, when I drive below 65mph it does not drain.I drive to San Diego often (105 miles one way). I charge to 90% (296 miles) before my departure which would be plenty for a round trip, but driving at 75-80 mph I arrive with 45-50% remaining, and the nav is indicating I'll be down to ~10% on my return. That's a little bit out of my comfort zone so I'll usually stop to supercharge additional 10-20% which takes 5-10 minutes.
I believe the voodoo of which you speak is called a CVT transmission and a highly efficient 4-cylinder engine.There isn’t some voodoo that’s going to let an ICE car be hugely more efficient. Despite various protestations from sample sizes of one about some sort of miracle on the road.
The definition of Toyota PriusI believe the voodoo of which you speak is called a CVT transmission and a highly efficient 4-cylinder engine.
HI all,
You may also be aware that Tesla's EPA range claims are self-reported and overestimate actual range because of the way they self-test their vehicles. See this for details: Edmund's report
Nope. They don't even run the test. EPA figures only mean something when you drive at the same speed as the test was run at. PPL expect to get EPA at any speed so there's like this serious disconnect going on. This false expectation leads to a lot of BS figures from makers.I dont really know how EPA estimates, but i assume they charge a car and drive it. What’s there to report or not to report?
Please be more specific. 50% battery on 90 miles is about what I saw in my Model 3 driving 85 mph against wind at 20F. Considering sub-freezing temperatures in Florida unlikely, I would agree that something is wrong IF it is really 50% of the entire battery on 90 miles of driving. Could you please report your average energy usage for that trip and you overall average energy use (Wh/mi)?I just got my Model Y on December 26. My first trip out of town, Sarasota to Disney. 90 miles all interstate. Driving 90 miles and it drained 50% of my battery. Is something wrong? Should I take in to be looked at?
Oh nice, had no idea. Hope for a class action soon.HI all,
You may also be aware that Tesla's EPA range claims are self-reported and overestimate actual range because of the way they self-test their vehicles. See this for details: Edmund's report
I really wish Tesla would take the rated range out of the UI entirely. It should only be used for promotional purposes (on the website) so that buyers can use it as a sort of apples to apples comparison with other vehicles.Remember that the EPA range of 330 is for combined city/hwy and that EVs do better at city speeds.
The EPA test cycles are more than "charge and drive it". For example, for range tests, the car is ran until it stops, not until it indicates 0 battery range on display. For efficiency tests, the EPA measures the amount of energy required to recharge the car after driving, so such efficiency will include energy loses due to charging. The manufactures can use one of several EPA approaches to testing to report the range and efficiency. Some people try to spin this as if Tesla is doing something inappropriate (also called FUD).I dont really know how EPA estimates, but i assume they charge a car and drive it. What’s there to report or not to report?
I can achieve and exceed the rated range under certain conditions. When driving, and when weather is good, I refer to the rated range as something I know achievable if I need to squeeze more from the car. It is a good reference point for me, not a marketing trick.I really wish Tesla would take the rated range out of the UI entirely. It should only be used for promotional purposes (on the website) so that buyers can use it as a sort of apples to apples comparison with other vehicles.
If you want to go further then flip on the "enegy" panel and make your changes to your driving against that. Make your adjustments against the "instant" or "average" WH/mile (or per KM). That display gives you the estimated range remaining in the battery and won't you get the same satisfaction out of making that number go as high as possible?I can achieve and exceed the rated range under certain conditions. When driving, and when weather is good, I refer to the rated range as something I know achievable if I need to squeeze more from the car. It is a good reference point for me, not a marketing trick.
nope. there’s no free lunch. just misunderstood data.I believe the voodoo of which you speak is called a CVT transmission and a highly efficient 4-cylinder engine.