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@Vostok -- any hints on if there will be grants/incentives for residential building's owners corporation on upgrading common area electrical for parking bay chargers?
That's disappointing to hear. I live in a building completed last year and while the strata by-laws have accommodations to have EV chargers installed in private car spaces, when I asked the building manager about it they said it would be very difficult to lead wiring from each individual unit's submitter to their car space to make it happen.That was also on my list but I ran out of time to cover it. I'll cover it in a follow-up.
While their plan for new builds is mostly heading in the right direction, I didn't get the sense they had thought much about existing Strata.
One obvious space challenge is to fit an additional circuit breaker for each EVSE. Presently there would only be a single main switch and a rail of breakers for common property.technically the cable only needs to run from there to be joined to your private unit's electricity consumption
Really dependent on the building.@lint -- slightly off topic but where are the power meters for the building?
As mentioned in my post in this other thread I had the meeting yesterday with two reps from the Net-Zero transport team in the NSW Department of Planning, Industry and Environment (DPIE).
I might meet with them again in the new year.
I wonder if you could use the new Gen3 wall connector and configure it to bill owners directly? This way the electricity could come from the common area power and the OC could be re-imbursed from Tesla directly.Really dependent on the building.
I live in a 15+ story MDU.
My garage is 10 floors from my meter and not in the same riser.
We have separate strata sub-boards on every 2nd floor of the underground garage, but there would only be room for about 6 individual sub-meters, of about 50 carspots per floor.
@lint -- slightly off topic but where are the power meters for the building? Usually they are in the same place (sometimes in the garage)... technically the cable only needs to run from there to be joined to your private unit's electricity consumption.
I believe the boards are on level 9 (it's a mixed use building with residential starting from 9) and the car space is on B2, so a similar situation.Really dependent on the building.
I live in a 15+ story MDU.
My garage is 10 floors from my meter and not in the same riser.
We have separate strata sub-boards on every 2nd floor of the underground garage, but there would only be room for about 6 individual sub-meters, of about 50 carspots per floor.
This could be an option to consider.I wonder if you could use the new Gen3 wall connector and configure it to bill owners directly? This way the electricity could come from the common area power and the OC could be re-imbursed from Tesla directly.
I contracted the developer in my new building to run a 20 amp circuit from my allocated carspace to my meter upstairs. The building should be finished in a few months. The absolute last thing I'd want to deal with is ongoing complexity with key fobs, shared parking spaces, shared circuits etc. I just want to use my own space like a normal person, but plug the car in. Do it once, do it right, forget all about it.
The new build doesn't yet have a Strata Committee, that on its own removes 99% of the complexity of the solution.New build is quite a different situation to a legacy apartment block.
The contract said the building wouldn’t have EV charging at all, because the proposed infrastructure wouldn’t support it. They then quoted $15k to install a three-phase charger. I told them no, all I want is 32 amps on controlled load 2 or 20 amps on a normal circuit, to my own meter, and I offered to sign an agreement I wouldn’t charge on stinking hot afternoons when the infrastructure would be stressed. They took that to their electrician and came back quoting $1500 for 20 amps without asking to sign any such agreement. I then signed the main contract.Question - why not get a 32A circuit rather than the 20A?
I read this recently and thought of your meeting @Vostok. While British EV owner's needs are arguably different to ours in AU, this well written essay recounts a new owner's experience the Net-Zero team may find useful.
Streets ahead? What I’ve learned from my year with an electric car
Record sales and now news of a battery that lasts hundreds of miles. It’s getting better, but going green was tough, admits a reluctant pioneerwww.theguardian.com
Sparkies in particular chuckle a bit when they think back to every client with more dollars than sense who they’ve installed three phase chargers for, who drive maybe 1/10th the kilometres I do, and paid $5k+ for the privilege.
Sounds like your sparky cheaped out on the Type B RCDs, didn't have to do any trenching, already had three-phase to work with, and didn't need to do any other site upgrades or drill through a firewall.My 3-phase wall connector came with the car, and cost $500 to install
There's a 50kW DC Evie charger about three blocks away from the new building. If I really needed to charge in a hurry, I have options.Do I charge often at 11 kW? No - in fact, I’ve only done it once in 2 years.
Was it really important on that one occasion to be able to charge at 11 kW? Yes. Yes, it was.