NYTimes blunders again... columnist says 200-300 mile EV battery nonexistant

[Norbert]

('I don't have to understand that.')

Also known as: 'No need to let facts get in the way of a good story.'

 

[swkidder]

Yes, the Times is really that incompetent.

 

[dogphlap]

I read the tweets you (AndreN) linked to.
They appear to come from a woman who is too stupid to comprehend how ignorant she is.

 

[dsm363]

Wow. Disappointed in the NYT. Everyone makes mistakes but to double down on stupidity just isn't right.

 

[wycolo]

Truly a distinction without a difference. Ask her if she cares how many cells are in her iPhone, flashlite or boom box.
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[tomsax]

From the article:

Which also suggests its drawback: the Volt only gets about 40 miles on pure battery power alone before it switches to its gasoline-powered engine.

It seems like Nocera and Dallett think the Volt range is determined by the battery chemistry. Perhaps they even think the Volt uses a single battery instead of a battery pack, whatever that even means. The Volt's electric range is determined by the type and number of cells GM chose to put in the Volt's pack, the same as any other plug-in electric vehicle.

We could totally blow their minds by pointing out that a 9V battery is really a battery pack: multiple cells joined together in a convenient package. I just tweeted that tidbit. @tomsaxton

 

[callmesam]

Tom,

This sounds like a job for Margaret Sullivan. She weighed in last time. She might be tempted to enter the fray again if you can point to some institutional bias . . .


Problems with Precisions and Judgement . . .

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How many times is Tesla going to fall to "precision and judgement" failures on the part of the NYT?

From the article:


It seems like Nocera and Dallett think the Volt range is determined by the battery chemistry. Perhaps they even think the Volt uses a single battery instead of a battery pack, whatever that even means. The Volt's electric range is determined by the type and number of cells GM chose to put in the Volt's pack, the same as any other plug-in electric vehicle.

We could totally blow their minds by pointing out that a 9V battery is really a battery pack: multiple cells joined together in a convenient package. I just tweeted that tidbit. @tomsaxton

 

[dhanson865]

Truly a distinction without a difference. Ask her if she cares how many cells are in her iPhone, flashlight or boom box.
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I was disappointed to see a laptop battery on a new model with only 3 cells. I wanted a 6 cell or 8 cell battery but the rest of the laptop was what i needed so I'll look for a replacement with more cells down the road when this battery degrades.

 

[Norbert]

I was disappointed to see a laptop battery on a new model with only 3 cells. I wanted a 6 cell or 8 cell battery but the rest of the laptop was what i needed so I'll look for a replacement with more cells down the road when this battery degrades.

Yes, redundancy is better.

(Sorry for waking up a thread on such a meaningless subject... )

 

[SteveG3]

The discussion on Twitter between Andrew James and Lydia Dallett at the NYT about what a battery is is more than a little disheartening.

for what it's worth, I just stumbled on this thread now, and Lydia has removed those tweets. it would be nice if her apparent realization that her contentions were at odds with reality had been paired with some sort of correction from NYT to the original story.

 

[artsci]

for what it's worth, I just stumbled on this thread now, and Lydia has removed those tweets. it would be nice if her apparent realization that her contentions were at odds with reality had been paired with some sort of correction from NYT to the original story.

The NY Times almost never eats humble pie. It gives them indigestion.

 

[SteveG3]

The NY Times almost never eats humble pie. If gives them indigestion.

I see. it would have been nice, but I wasn't holding my breath.

 

[dsm363]

They wouldn't even retract the Broder story.

 

[neroden]

On a hunch, I started looking up Joe Nocera's record on other matters... apparently he's written hackish opinion pieces promoting Keystone XL and promoting fracking. Bit of an agenda there.

NYT wouldn't even retract the infamous Judith Miller fabrications used to promote the Iraq War. They're not good about retracting errors.

Oh -- and the cost of the 85kwh battery in the Model S appears to be $13600, if the repeatedly leaked $160/kwh price is correct. Tesla's just charging huge markups on it because they can (and need the cash).

 

[RDuke]

On a hunch, I started looking up Joe Nocera's record on other matters... apparently he's written hackish opinion pieces promoting Keystone XL and promoting fracking. Bit of an agenda there.....

Either that, or it was an extremely slow news day!