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Performance Plus (+) Upgrade

Discussion in 'Model S: Driving Dynamics' started by HankLloydRight, Jan 28, 2017.

  1. HankLloydRight

    HankLloydRight Fluxing

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    Has anyone had Tesla do the Performance Plus suspension upgrade mentioned in this article?

    Tesla Model S Peformance Plus Option Now Available for $6,500; Retrofits Offered Too - Inside EVs

    They quote $13,500, but that includes all new 21" rims and tires. What if you don't need the rims/tires, will they install just the mentioned parts:

    * 2 x Rear lower control arms with revised stiffer bushings
    * 2 x Rear upper links with revised stiffer bushings

    Or even better yet, do you think it's possible to buy those parts and have a non-Tesla shop install them?
     
  2. NikeWings

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    Across the top, the article says it was written 4 years ago???
     
  3. HankLloydRight

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    Yup. Does that change anything?
     
  4. Blurry_Eyed

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    Yes, I had the upgrade done on my Signature P85. I love it. I opted for the 'identical refit' that changed out the entire suspension and rear subframe to be exactly like a factory built P85+. Unfortunately I believe Tesla discontinued the program at their service centers. Probably because they are so busy now and don't have the time to put into refits. When I had it done, the service center techs were usually sitting around with not much to do. So I suspect Tesla was trying to bring in revenue to help pay for their labor costs.
     
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    Pricing or availablity to comp.
    I do like your idea of going non-Tesla.
     
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    Do you think that same setup was used in the early P85Ds with the + suspension?
     
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    Installing won't be the issue, IMHO. Getting the parts from Tesla could be a possible outcome of the policy charge that @JonMc announced earlier.
     
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    Also, I'm looking at an early P85D now.. without the window sticker or option codes, how can I confirm that it has or doesn't have the + suspension?
     
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    I'm also interested. I generally dislike the compliance of the rear sus, but I think the rumor was these stiffer components we used across the board in later builds
     
  10. Blurry_Eyed

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    I'm not sure, but I think it is. Lolachamp on the forum would be the best person to ask about the suspension, he has a great deal of knowledge about this.

    From what I remember some, if not all, of the + suspension was adopted at some point in all the cars coming off the line. But then I think a decision was made to make the ride of all the cars a bit softer. Maybe a way to describe it is the + suspension is like a BMW 'M' car setup. It was a bit to harsh for some, so now all the cars are more like your average BMW coming off the line.
     
  11. Blurry_Eyed

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    Ask Lolachamp on the forum, he may be able to tell you based in the VIN # of the car what suspension is in it.
     
  12. HankLloydRight

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    Does he have production data by specific VIN?

    Because looking at all the data in EV-CPO, I've learned since yesterday you can't go by VIN range. For example, here are 45 P85Ds in VIN order that were all CPOs and a Y or N if they had the PX01 option code for the Performance Plus suspension. As you can see, it's randomly distributed at about a 50/50 ratio. And this is just VINs that start with P63xxx.

    P63002 Y
    P63015 N
    P63024 N
    P63089 N
    P63100 N
    P63110 N
    P63111 Y
    P63114 N
    P63302 Y
    P63304 Y
    P63309 Y
    P63418 N
    P63436 Y
    P63440 Y
    P63462 N
    P63466 N
    P63491 N
    P63494 Y
    P63513 Y
    P63523 Y
    P63526 Y
    P63556 N
    P63557 Y
    P63585 Y
    P63588 Y
    P63645 N
    P63673 Y
    P63712 N
    P63724 Y
    P63759 N
    P63770 Y
    P63821 N
    P63864 Y
    P63874 N
    P63882 N
    P63887 Y
    P63889 N
    P63906 N
    P63914 N
    P63935 Y
    P63940 N
    P63958 Y
    P63966 N
    P63969 Y
    P63977 Y
     
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    I think he can probably tell you approximately the range of VIN's that had the '+' suspension even though they were just standard production cars. Or alternatively, he might be able to give you the approximate production dates of cars that had the '+' suspension. I don't think he would have specific per car VIN info on a specific car. I'm fairly sure Tesla has it. Whether or not they will release that info to the public is probably unlikely.
     
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    Thank you! Is that good for either side? Turn the wheels in or out? Does it matter?
     
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    See my note above... it totally did not go by VIN range. Looking at all P85D CPOs, starting at P42343 and ending at P68980 (233 specific P85D VINs) the existence of the PX01 option code is random across the group. So VIN range is not reliable at all.
     
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    I sent him a note, so maybe he can shed some light on the subject.
     
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    VIN P42343 can't possibly be a P85D. I have a December 2014 P85D, and the VIN is 64227. I'm pretty sure the P85Ds started in the low 6s.

    I don't believe the plus suspension was even an option when we ordered. I think it was just standard on the early P85Ds, and then at some point Tesla switched, and stopped making the P85Ds with the plus suspension.

    There is some chance I'm not remembering this correctly.

    I think @sorka is also very knowledgeable about the suspension issues, timing, etc., so perhaps he will weigh in.
     
  19. BrokerDon

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    What he said.

    more info here: P85D (pre/post April) ride performance
     
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    I agree with you, but the data that Tesla publish doesn't. But we know they've had coding issues on their CPO site. According to the CPO history, the following VINs are all coded as P85Ds. My guess is that they're really miscoded P85+s.

    P42343
    P42349
    P42380
    P54656
    P54663
    P54718
    P55129
    P55136
    P55138
    P57068
     

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