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not sure if they could make it more confusing than they have already.... going with EV-A leads to high TOU rates for our daily activities.
Has anyone not gone with EV-A and stayed with their E-1 plan?
Thanks in advance.
It will, of course, depend on your own usage pattern, but I think most people find EV-A beneficial overall.
I had an old E-6 plan (which was both tiered and TOU, talk about messy...) and it ended being better for me.
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One key variable is whether you have AC or not as the rate increase during the day may be a swing factor. You could stay on your current plan for a couple of months and then use that data to map it to the EV-A plan to see how things would have been. That may involve a bit of excel work though. There are a couple of excel models linked in the thread below:
PGE Rates comparison tool? (E-6 vs EV-A)
The only way to do this would be to install a separate panel and meter. One for EV-A (the car) and the other for your home.Has anyone not gone with EV-A and stayed with their E-1 plan?
EV-A is best.
EV-A with solar with net metering 1.0 is amazing. They're buying my power at sky high rates during the day and I'm buying it back at night for peanuts. This is where PG&Es rates bite them in the butt big time.
Technically, if you have the EV rate on a separate meter it's the EV-B rate. EV-A is the whole home EV rate. The Sub-Metering Trials are billed on EV-B and the kWh usage is subtracted from your main meter, usually E-1 but could be E-6 or E-TOU.The only way to do this would be to install a separate panel and meter. One for EV-A (the car) and the other for your home.
Depending on your connection that may not be too expensive. I was going to do that when I had and E7 plan but they discontinued it so we just changed our lifestyle.
BTW IMHO think in the not too distant future (~5 years?) you may find that all EV's will be measured on a separate sub meter and you won't be able to get the EV-A rate for your entire dwelling. They have been experimenting with this for a number of years. But at the rate utilities change things it's probably more like 20 years.
I would love to have this with my current supplier, Liberty Utilities (a small electric company that serves Lake Tahoe) but they don't allow net metering and time of use when you have solar PV. I guess they have figured out that this would work against their profit.EV-A is best.
EV-A with solar with net metering 1.0 is amazing. They're buying my power at sky high rates during the day and I'm buying it back at night for peanuts. This is where PG&Es rates bite them in the butt big time.
We are on E-6 right now, having been forced to it from E-7. (We had been on E-7 since we bought our house in the early ‘90s thanks to the previous owner who ran a kiln as a hobby. It has saved us thousands of dollars over the years.). We also have 6.28kw of net-metered solar. On weekdays, E-6 switches to off-peak at 9 PM whereas EV-A off-peak starts at 11 PM. For the past year or more, I’ve set our Volt to start charging at 11 PM to make comparisons easier. According to the PG&E calculator I can save about $50/year by switching to EV-A. When I get my Model 3, making us a two-plugin family, there will be even greater savings. This is due to the huge off-peak rate difference between E-6 and EV-A ($0.17-something vs $0.12-something per kWh.)
Two things you're probably already aware, but others may want to factor in:
-if you switch off E-6, you can never switch back later. Presently E-6 is only for grandfathered users.
-both E-6 and EV-A will be shiftng their peak periods later starting in 2020. Mostly impacts the solar net-metering.
He will immediately save money by changing to EV-A and the savings will only get bigger with the second EV. There is no reason to cling on to E-6. I had the same feelings about E-9A to EV-A, but I realized that I would eventually be kicked off, so better lock in the savings sooner.Two things you're probably already aware, but others may want to factor in:
-if you switch off E-6, you can never switch back later. Presently E-6 is only for grandfathered users.
-both E-6 and EV-A will be shiftng their peak periods later starting in 2020. Mostly impacts the solar net-metering.
As is point out above those on the coast can do EV-A for everything. Those who live interior and have Heat Pumps or AC for summer cooling had better do some serious calculations and/or change their lifestyle on EV-A vs E6. We did it but there is lots of complaining at various times. We even have a litte chart on the fridge on when its good/vs bad.