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Proof 3P is not just sw unlock
- Thread starter heems
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Glamisduner
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xilex
Model P3D
But what about all the Monroney sticker that performance models get that say AWD (and no mention of performance)?
Those have all been the P3D- without the Performance Package (as far as i know).
So far those all seem to be actual performance cars (without the now mandatory extra perf package) that had incorrect software loads. Since there's no way to visually distinguish the cars it makes sense the incorrect software could have been loaded.
If you can go 0-60 in 3.3s you have the right hardware
Could've sworn I've seen the long-range battery referred to as Performance HV Battery, meaning the other part number might be for MR and SR cars. Happy to be proven wrong, though
Daniel in SD
(supervised)
The question is which battery does the LR and LR AWD use?
If there was a hardware difference then there would be none of the AWD / AWD+ mixups. The software would just be able to check which battery was installed.
If there was a hardware difference then there would be none of the AWD / AWD+ mixups. The software would just be able to check which battery was installed.
The 2 parts that OP highlighted, one is for the mid-range and the other one is for the Performance.
It does not prove that the Performance version is not just a software unlicked version of AWD
I am convinced that the performance and AWD are physically identical, even though Elon said that they screen for special motors to install in the Performance model. My hunch is that during the crazy ramp up period to produce 5000 to 6000 cars per week, they most likely did not have the time to actually screen and test all the motors and decided to just software lock the AWD version. It is just a hunch.
It does not prove that the Performance version is not just a software unlicked version of AWD
I am convinced that the performance and AWD are physically identical, even though Elon said that they screen for special motors to install in the Performance model. My hunch is that during the crazy ramp up period to produce 5000 to 6000 cars per week, they most likely did not have the time to actually screen and test all the motors and decided to just software lock the AWD version. It is just a hunch.
paranoidroid
Member
This could be completely true, and if so who cares? As long as you get the performance you paid for (0-60) and it's warranted for the performance it's all the same.
I find it funny in 2018 people are upset they are paying for software (if that is the case).
This goes what everyone else was saying. Same motors (other than a possible burnin) but slightly different battery electronics.
Electric cars are not like gas cars. The limiting factor in the acceleration of an EV is not in general the motor itself. Sure it has to be sized appropriately but you can get more power out of the same motor by increasing current.
The primary difference between the perf and awd isn't the motors, it's the inverters and other equipment between the battery and the motor
Garlan Garner
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paranoidroid
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Garlan Garner
Banned
Its not silly.
Many people didn't want to pay all of that money for just software. - and now we know that they didn't.
Its spelled out in a much more detailed thread elsewhere in TMC
paranoidroid
Member
Then don't pay for it. And enjoy a slower car. In the end you are buying a capability. And the rest of us who feel that extra capability is worth the cost for it will be enjoying that.
There are dozens of multi billion dollar companies purely making and selling 'nothing but software'. Doesn't bug most of us one bit.
Garlan Garner
Banned
That's not true....it bugs many people here in TMC....hence the other mile - long thread about this subject matter.
How are these comments generated without proof or backup.
The performance model is more than just a faster car. That's why its getting track mode. For one....it has the brakes for it.
