ryanjm
Tesla Podcast Host
That must be a Founder's Series car. Not only does it have license plates already, but it was registered in November.
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That must be a Founder's Series car. Not only does it have license plates already, but it was registered in November.
cantdecide
Member
Particularly with many signatures still in the factory and not yet heading to a delivery center (that was my status update yesterday) so I am still 1 to 3 weeks away from delivery of my signature at the factory...
I officially call this theory that 3 P90D non-Sig X's were delivered in Syosset complete BS. There is no way Tesla would again invite the ire that they had with Model S production vehicles being delivered before all Sigs.
And I say this in full communication with my DS who claims that our Sig-X hasn't even finished general assembly and is at least 18-25 days away from delivery.
My founder X is still "at the very end of production", but is completely assembled. It's waiting on something; parts, or re-work. Meanwhile other X's built at the same time have already been delivered. Tesla is going to miss my estimated delivery of "January". In December that was thought to be the first half.
MrBoylan
Member
That's a nice thought. Also possible that 2 of them may still be en route to Connecticut, Westchester or Massachusetts and that Syosset is not their final destination. Maybe Syosset is the "regional hub" for Model X final inspection/service before getting in front of the public?
I did not say the P90Ds were delivered in Syosset. I said they were delivered to Syosset. No idea how long they will sit in the service center and when they will make their way to end customers.
Viperboy said:
No Sig/Founder badging and no rear spoilers.
PeterK said:
Was told these were all customer cars. Sales guy thought they (and Westchester) would have a demo car in a month or so, but that it would probably be a "showroom" car and not available for test drives. Interestingly, although Syosset has delivered a number of X's, none of the employees had actually driven one-- strictly Verbotten.
pvogel
Member
He's full of it. My production car is already done. Waiting for delivery because Sig's haven't been all delivered yet. So your Sig X is done, though they may be doing fit and finish QC, etc.
MrBoylan
Member
They had spoilers, though they might not have been obvious (by design). All Model X have spoilers. The 70D and 90D have a fixed spoiler in the up position. The P90D has a dynamic spoiler which goes down when the car is locked/parked. So if the spoiler was not visible (it was retracted), then they were P90Ds (not 90Ds) which makes sense as we know that Tesla is only delivering P models right now.
To me, it's encouraging that they're delivering non-Sig customer cars already (at least to the service center), but some Siggies might be a little peeved about that (and rightly so, if they are still waiting for their confirmed orders).
-CB
Why do you sometimes see the spoilers up on parked cars then? I definitely saw the spoiler up on one of the Sigs (it was Sig Red).
MrBoylan
Member
Either it was unlocked or it was a glitch (or there was a squirrel inside the spoiler).
I'm not sure if you can *intentionally* leave the spoiler up while the car is locked, but the default behavior is to retract when the doors are locked and the car is parked. The ones on the car carrier a couple of posts above this were also up, so it's possible they have them up when the car is in "dealer mode" too for some reason. Maybe a Sig owner could chime in if there's a way to leave the spoiler up while parked.
pvogel
Member
From the manual, you can configure the spoiler to be dynamic or to be always up. (Not clear if that's max visibility or max aero position) so if you leave it in the always up setting then even when you close and lock it'll be up.
CarlK
Active Member
How do you know that for sure other than from internet hearsay? No one has seen a 70D or 90D. No one even knows if one is ever produced. There is no such thing as fixed spoiler mentioned on the official Tesla website either.
The active spoiler is listed as an option included with the P90D. If it's an option, I think logically we just assume the alternative is either a fixed spoiler, or no spoiler at all. I didn't choose a performance package, but my dashboard at Tesla shows a spoiler in the raised position. I'm going to agree with the idea of a fixed spoiler.
MrBoylan
Member
A.) The spoiler is in a fixed position in the design studio renders for the 70D and 90D (it disappears/retracts in the design studio when you select the P90D).
B.) An Inside Sales Rep at HQ, who seems to be pretty clued in, told me specifically, "Non-performance Model X includes a stationary spoiler that is fixed at the height of the active spoiler’s visibility (high) setting. The active spoiler is only available on P90Ds." This same ISR also told me the precise external dimensions of the 90D before they were "formally" published. So, I think this has a pretty high likelihood of being correct.
