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I would not think they need to be in there either. Hopefully 6.0 will include valet mode which should prevent access to the frunk and glove box, as well as lock out setting changes and limit speed.Why would a valet ever need to get into the frunk?
That totally makes sense. I did not think about accidental button presses.many were caused by a valet mistakenly pressing the front of the fob rather than the roof of the fob when opening or locking the car -- resulting in the inadvertent opening of the frunk.
Presumably any real fix will require stamping changes involving what is likely to be substantial retooling cost, especially for a part of this size.This is pretty ridiculous to be sure. It really has to be a very simple problem to solve; why isn't it just fixed? I guess even the greatest companies just can't get things done sometimes, though I do assume they are extraordinarily busy right now.
I don't think I'd go that far. It's a relatively minor issue with an otherwise great car...
I agree on pretty much all points. However, as noted, while my frunk is damaged, but I don't think I've been "suckered into" the purchase. That implies some amount of deception, which is all I was disagreeing with.To be fair, though, how many "relatively minor issues" are owners going to have to tolerate before becoming disillusioned with such a major purchase? Every time someone discusses an issue with the car, others quickly point out how minor it is. Death by a thousand cuts is still no fun. A frunk hood is basic. Engine hoods have been manufactured for 100 years. Yet somehow Tesla managed to screw theirs up. The fact that Tesla hasn't stepped up to address this issue - which is all over the place, so not isolated - tells me that it would be cost prohibitive for Tesla to do so. In other words, count on requiring a full hood replacement.
Should closing the front hood require a replacement after every X number of closings? That's a pretty obvious (and lame) design issue that Tesla should address. While I have not experienced this issue, knock wood, I am sympathetic to those who have. I find Tesla's response to this issue sorely lacking.
LaJolla, you should send your thoughts up the chain to Jerome Guillen and see if you can find some resolution - not just for yourself, but everyone else. You can also tweet Elon Musk on Twitter, which I hope Elon would find an embarrassment to see in his Twitter feed. So far, however, I have not heard of anyone taking the proper steps to escalate the issue to a level where it will get executive attention.
dsm363, in answer to your question about why a valet would open the frunk, I will repeat to you what the Tesla-authorized body shop expert told me yesterday: He has seen a large number of Tesla frunk creases in his market area, and many were caused by a valet mistakenly pressing the front of the fob rather than the roof of the fob when opening or locking the car -- resulting in the inadvertent opening of the frunk.
The Tesla body shop expert told me that, unless I was prepared to ensure that no one else ever closed the frunk in the future, my $2,000-plus repair to the frunk this time is likely to be wasted since, chances are, the crease will recur in the future when someone without knowledge of the Tesla specialized frunk-closing training closes the frunk.
Again, not to belabor the point, but this is a $120,000 vehicle with a fundamental design flaw that has apparently existed from Day One and that no one has bothered to address -- despite the fact that the flaw has marred the vehicles of hundreds and hundreds of owners.
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Thanks so much, HillCountryFun. I really appreciate your thoughtful suggestion. I will track down Mr. Guillen's contact information and respectfully present the situation to him. Thank you again for the suggestion.
I have not yet experienced the issue, but am now very hesitant to use the Frunk because of all of the reported issues. For a moment let's set aside Tesla fixing this in some way (which they should do). In anyone's discussion with body shops or paintless dent repair, have any of them indicated, or anyone on the forum self investigated, what a DIY preventative fix might look like? A small wedge of solder, a wood shim, or a firm caulking compound inserted into the gap under where the crease is likely to occur? This may give the thin skin some additional structural rigidity. It may not solve the problem completely, but may lessen the likelihood of occurrence? If the fix was that simple I'm sure Tesla would have implemented it, but trying to come up with some creative solution to reduce the occurrence ahead of time.
I have yet to see a good picture of where the creases occur. I don't need a picture of the crease, but if someone takes a hood shot top and from underneath and circles the at risk areas I can take a look this weekend on what options might exist to improve the structural integrity of the area.
As others have stated, many repair shops have openly admitted there is no "fix". If someone untrained in the delicate nature of closing the hood works on your car, there will be a very high likely hood of it happening again. That means car detailers, valets, even Tesla technicians themselves.
I have put off the repair until an alternate closing method becomes available....or it gets much worse. Barring a hood redesign, a self closing latch assembly would be a good compromise.
I have yet to see a good picture of where the creases occur. I don't need a picture of the crease, but if someone takes a hood shot top and from underneath and circles the at risk areas I can take a look this weekend on what options might exist to improve the structural integrity of the area.