Roadster sales - Tesla business model profitable?

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Any word what price they were able to get for them?

Met a guy yesterday who bought the (a) NY Demo car. He said he got a "good" discount. The car is being shipped here to LA.

 

[bolosky]

That is very interesting. I wonder if it matters that they had unique VINs (mostly labeled as VPs). I half expected them to do this in the future since VIN502 (red 2010 Roadster Sport with CF exterior accents) is being used as a marketing car, yet has a standard VIN.

Any word what price they were able to get for them?

I talked about this in the same conversation that I mentioned before. The word was that they're marked down 20% from list price.

 

[Palpatine]

Any word what price they were able to get for them?

I know that the local service manager was trying to buy VP 31 for about $40,000. At least that is what he offered Elon for it.

Not sure if Elon accepted. It is a very "used" Tesla Roadster.
As of last week it was still here and was not yet sold. They drove it in our Seattle weekend drive.

 

[Lancelac]

I think the Chicago car went for about $75,000-80,000. Not really sure on that, though, nor do I know which Vp it was or what it was used for before it was here (about 6-8 months).

 

[TEG]

Where did VP11 end up?

 

[Serge]

Fleet sales is another possible market, by the way. I mean, EV Components have started a precedent, right ?

Here is nice chunk of money available starting next year: FPL Group and Duke Energy Pledge 10-year, $600M+ Commitment to Transition Fleets to PHEVs and EVs

 

[doug]

Where did VP11 end up?

That would be interesting since I'm pretty sure VP11 was built before P1 even. Perhaps they're not reaching back that far.

 

[qwk]

I know that the local service manager was trying to buy VP 31 for about $40,000. At least that is what he offered Elon for it.

Not sure if Elon accepted. It is a very "used" Tesla Roadster.
As of last week it was still here and was not yet sold. They drove it in our Seattle weekend drive.

How beat up does vp31 have to be to be offered 40k? I assume it's in bad shape?

 

[Palpatine]

How beat up does vp31 have to be to be offered 40k? I assume it's in bad shape?

Let's just say that it has a few thousand miles of customers doing 0-60 mph testing and not much else.

That adds up to a lot of abuse and a lot of scuff marks.

 

[NEWDL]

An offer does not reflect value unless all offers are similar, this may reflect demand. If I offered 5k for a Roadster it does not mean it is worth 5k in the open market. VP31 sold...and for much more than 40k...

 

[vfx]

Let's just say that it has a few thousand miles of customers doing 0-60 mph testing and not much else.

That adds up to a lot of abuse and a lot of scuff marks.

How do you hurt an electric Motor? A new paint job and interior are in the 12K range.

 

[tomsax]

VP11 needed replacement brakes at 10,000 miles, but that's not a huge expense either.

I think VP11 took an exceptional amount of abuse, being the first customer drive car and taken for extended white-knuckle test drives. I don't envy Zak and the others who were in the passenger seat for those early test drives. VP11 rattled horribly when I took it for a second test drive in July of 2008.

I doubt they sold VP11 since it would need a lot of work to make it feel like a new car. When they started doing test drives in the newer VPs, they switched to auto-cross style customer drives. That sort of driving is hard on tires, but not really so rough on the car.

I do wonder what sort of battery pack warranty they give with the VPs they sold...

 

[mnx]

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I think the Chicago car went for about $75,000-80,000. Not really sure on that, though, nor do I know which Vp it was or what it was used for before it was here (about 6-8 months).

man I'd love to snag a used roadster for under 80k...
- mnx

 

[Alfred]

According to the "Hamburger Abendblatt" Tesla in Germany is sold out and has about 100 orders there, pending delivery in ten weeks. The new Munich store is empty and new cars will come in from mid-October. Sales worldwide should pass the 1000 mark in 2009 and 2000 Roadsters are planned for 2010.
Auto: Erste deutsche Filiale in München eröffnet - Elektroflitzer Tesla ausverkauft - Wirtschaft - Hamburger Abendblatt

 

[jtibble]

Speaking of the guy (one page back) who bought the one in NYC... I was just there about four weeks ago and saw the Roadster for my very first time (in person, dark green, VIN 281), and the sales manager told me that it was incredibly difficult to get the car in the showroom with two forklifts and many hours maneuvering through the front door and glass walls. I'm surprised they were so willing to part with it, now that they have to get several more cars in to make up for the loss!

 

[Arnold Panz]

Speaking of the guy (one page back) who bought the one in NYC... I was just there about four weeks ago and saw the Roadster for my very first time (in person, dark green, VIN 281), and the sales manager told me that it was incredibly difficult to get the car in the showroom with two forklifts and many hours maneuvering through the front door and glass walls. I'm surprised they were so willing to part with it, now that they have to get several more cars in to make up for the loss!

The only "car" in the NY showroom now is the EP2, which doesn't even have the drivertrain in it. The woman there said they sold all of the 2008 floor models (which is a good thing), and they'll eventually get new demos for the NY store, but probably not until late fall when they finally finish building the thing. The architectural specs (which they have posted on the wall in the store) look really nice. Right now, it's kind of dumpy, with boxes and stuff laying around, but should be really nice once it's finished.

 

[jtibble]

The only "car" in the NY showroom now is the EP2, which doesn't even have the drivertrain in it.

Are we referring to the same car? Dark green exterior, light brown seats?

 

[TEG]

No, EP2 would be red.

 

[vfx]

... the sales manager told me that it was incredibly difficult to get the car in the showroom with two forklifts and many hours maneuvering through the front door and glass walls. I'm surprised they were so willing to part with it, now that they have to get several more cars in to make up for the loss!

It's what they do.


Move cars.

 

[Arnold Panz]

No, EP2 would be red.

Correct!