Russia announced they would move the HQ of the black sea fleet following this attack
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Russia/Ukraine conflict
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Russia announced they would move the HQ of the black sea fleet following this attack
lolachampcar
Well-Known Member
Now if they'd just remove the Russians
This has been going on for a long time. Ruzzia attacks civilians and civilian infrastructure including hospitals.
Russia Deliberately Targeting Kherson Medical Facilities – CIR Report
Russia Deliberately Targeting Kherson Medical Facilities – CIR Report
Here you go, Ukraine helping out. Apparently there are attacks all over Crimea and in Belgorad.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
100% of of the remaining Soviet strategic tire reserve has now been reallocated to the strategic air forces (and to the strategy room deep in the vowels of the Kremlin).
Da.
What's funny is that drones hit and destroyed 2planes and a helicopter north of Moscow 2 days ago. Maybe they were not wearing tires.
Everything slows down in the winter.
I suspect this winter is going to be different from last winter. The Pacific winter outlook looks very different this year, I suspect Europe and Asia will have a different weather pattern too. It still may not freeze, maybe it will just rain buckets all winter? Who knows for sure. I can't find a long range forecast for Ukraine.
Bald tires are not going to manage off road in mud very well. Even slightly muddy conditions and those trucks will just be sitting with their wheels spinning.
For American wars since WW I, the primary supply problem was usually having the right supply in the right place. Most of the time there was plentiful supply, it just wasn't in the right place. There were a few times when supply got tight. For some reason the US cut back on artillery ammunition production in 1943. It was some kind of administrative screw up. It led to ammunition shortages in the field for a couple of months. But that sort of thing was rare.
Rommel was outstanding at battlefield strategy, but he fell down when it came to supply logistics. The German high command knew that Africa was always going to be a sideshow because they couldn't move enough supply there to capture Egypt, but Rommel struggled to understand that reality. Rommel did outrun his supply lines. By the time he reached Egypt he was burning 90% of his fuel moving supplies from Tripoli.
The Axis felt real supply shortages throughout the supply chain, especially late in the war. My German teacher in high school had been in the Ardennes Offensive in 1944. He said he remembered seeing a knocked out American Jeep and he was dumbstruck that the spare tire on the back was brand new as were the four tires on the road. Getting new tires for German vehicles was almost impossible by that point.
The abundance of American supply convinced a lot of enemy front line soldiers that the war was truly lost long before it was over.
Russia is showing signs of being starved for everything like the Germans were by late 1944. Germany did fight on until May 1945, so it isn't a sign that collapse is imminent, but it is a clear sign they are hurting badly. An army in that kind of supply crunch may be capable of a localized offensive like the Germans did in the Ardennes, but the gains from any late war German offensives were short lived and the theme of the last year of the war was just trying to stem the bleeding on all fronts.
Ukraine and Russia are more evenly matched than Germany vs the Allies. Germany was facing three allies that had more people, more war production, and more supply of just about everything than Germany had. Ukraine is the better army, but they are just one army and they don't have all the advantages (they have some) the Allies had in WW II. Germany had a better trained and overall more competent army than Russia has. German NCOs were among the world's best at the time and they also had many very capable officers at all ranks who were given the flexibility to do achieve objectives on their own terms.
The comparisons between this war and WW II are not perfect by any means, but as supply goes, Russia is in a similar situation as what Germany was in around mid to late 1944.
I'm disgusted that we let them get away.
They're still in the Black Sea area. Ukraine has promised to increase the number of naval drones soon and they have been attacking ships at sea. They could take out some more ships and subs when they are operational out in the Black Sea.
petit_bateau
Active Member
I do not know about the specifics at the ports of Sevaspol and Novorossisk, but in general at key naval ports there are some important bits of infrastructure to watch.
1 - ammunitioning facilities;
2 - ammunition storage and preparation facilities;
3 - dry dock and repair facilities;
4 - barracks accomodation and onshore training facilities;
5 - refuelling facilities (these are of course also in civilian ports);
Ido recall that in Sevastpol item 1 was a floating crane and associated piers and roadways. Has that been removed ? If not, is there an equivalent at Novorossysk ?
(Very few navies can do this stuff at sea. In many navies ships alongside disembark most of their crew to 4. It is really only the USA, UK, and France that have true persistent deep water long range navies, though China is a fast learner. The point being that by carefully studying the Nov vs Sev port facilities and any relocations one can learn a lot.).
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They see to be on the receiving end of artillery fire and (?) does one of those vehicles hit a mine as well (?). Best wishes for them.
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@petit_bateau They are getting some hits but these units have passed the "second line" by verbove, these units are past the "dragon teeth" anti vehicle barrier and not receive mine hits. This is a mission to deliver clearing crews and the use of the mrap and strykers indicates it was considered a bit safer, the IFV led instead of tanks which is unusual
navguy12
Active Member
Poland will no longer send weapons to Ukraine, says PM, as grain dispute escalates
Poland will no longer send weapons to Ukraine, says PM, as grain dispute escalates
Comments by Polish PM follow Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s accusation that some in Europe are in effect aiding Russia
www.theguardian.com
CounterpointPoland will no longer send weapons to Ukraine, says PM, as grain dispute escalates
Poland will no longer send weapons to Ukraine, says PM, as grain dispute escalates
Comments by Polish PM follow Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s accusation that some in Europe are in effect aiding Russia
Poland Seeks to Mend Ukraine Rift With Arms Supplies U-Turn
The Polish government sought to walk back remarks by its premier that the country had stopped weapons shipments to Ukraine, tapping the brakes on an escalating dispute that’s shaken a key wartime alliance.
www.bloomberg.com
Something I've learned over the last year is that Poles @*#&ing loathe russia. Poland has fought above its weight with assistance to Ukraine.
80% of poles as of March 2023 dislike russians, vs around 40% in jan of 2022. Some of them were alive when the soviet union invaded.
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petit_bateau
Active Member
Thank you.
I saw some OSINT photo analysis that Russia is building another second line with teeth+ditch+mines+trenches a bit further back behind Verbove. Ukraine needs to penetrate faster than Russia can build, otherwise a true breakthrough will not be achievable. I haven't seen enough data to get a feel for whether Ukraine can manage that this season.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
I just can't help but like this guy. He reminds me of a W.E.B. Griffen character from his Brotherhood of War series, Sandy Felter: "le féroce petit juif"
Zelensky stares down Russia at his first UN meeting since the country’s invasion | Times Radio (1 hr ago)
You stand up to a bully, and bloody his nose. That's how you end the fight.
Cheers to the brave, ferocious defenders of freedom!
Zelensky stares down Russia at his first UN meeting since the country’s invasion | Times Radio (1 hr ago)
You stand up to a bully, and bloody his nose. That's how you end the fight.
Cheers to the brave, ferocious defenders of freedom!
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petit_bateau
Active Member
There are elections in Europe soon, these articles are worth reading - especially in respect of the Slovak one
www.theguardian.com
www.theguardian.com
www.theguardian.com
This also is relevant re Ukraine
www.theguardian.com
Revealed: one in three Europeans now vote anti-establishment
Exclusive: analysis of results in 31 countries last year found 32% of votes were cast for parties that are populist, far-left or far-right
www.theguardian.com
‘A perfect storm brewing’: how anti-establishment politicians could challenge Europe this autumn
Range of parties look likely to play a significant role in elections in Slovakia, Poland and the Netherlands
www.theguardian.com
Rightwing extremist views increasingly widespread in Germany, study finds
Findings show 8% of population have extremist attitudes, while 16.5% accused Jewish people of wanting to ‘take advantage’ of Nazi past
www.theguardian.com
This also is relevant re Ukraine
Zelenskiy faces difficult conversations in Washington amid spending battle
Republicans propose stopgap funding bill that does not include money for Ukraine as both parties signal concerns over support
www.theguardian.com
Me either, in terms of moving faster. However, no minefields which is an improvements. A few mappers believe that Ukraine has widely penetrated the second line in between Verbove and the village just south of Robotnye. Also that they have the road secured into Robotnye now so no more helicopter supplied troops (we hope).
In other news
Crimea again:
He was the right guy at the right time. I think when he refused to leave Kyiv despite russia already within city limits in Feb of last year it showed what he was made of. I strongly suspect if he had pissed off to Lviv he would not have had the clout he does with the country. He's youthful, gritty, charismatic, and meets with his people regularly. He's the complete antithesis of the old, paranoid, sick man leading russia. It doesn't mean I want to marry him, but ukraine is lucky to have him making calls and asking for favors from various presidents and prime ministers.I just can't help but like this guy. He reminds me of a W.E.B. Griffen character from his Brotherhood of War series, Sandy Felter: "le féroce petit juif"
Zelensky stares down Russia at his first UN meeting since the country’s invasion | Times Radio (1 hr ago)
You stand up to a bully, and bloody his nose. That's how you end the fight.
Cheers to the brave, ferocious defenders of freedom!
