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The Economist today reported on an interview with Ukraine’s commander-in-chief, General Valery Zaluzhny. Quotes from the article:

“Just like in the first world war we have reached the level of technology that puts us into a stalemate,” he says. The general concludes that it would take a massive technological leap to break the deadlock. “There will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough.”

Russia has lost at least 150,000 dead. In any other country such casualties would have stopped the war.” But not in Russia, where life is cheap and where Mr. Putin’s reference points are in the first and second world wars in which Russia lost tens of millions.

"...the level of our technological development today has put both us and our enemies in a stupor.”
“The simple fact is that we see everything the enemy is doing and they see everything we are doing. In order for us to break this deadlock we need something new, like the gunpowder which the Chinese invented and which we are still using to kill each other,” he says.

General Zaluzhny is desperately trying to prevent the war from settling into the trenches. “The biggest risk of an attritional trench war is that it can drag on for years and wear down the Ukrainian state,” he says.

Crimea, he believes, remains Mr Putin’s greatest vulnerability. It is the linchpin of his imperial restoration project, and his legitimacy rests on having brought it back to Russia.

A collapse in Ukrainian morale and Western support is precisely what Mr Putin is counting on. There is no question in General Zaluzhny’s mind that a long war favours Russia, a country with a population three times and an economy ten times the size of Ukraine’s. “Let’s be honest, it’s a feudal state where the cheapest resource is human life. And for us…the most expensive thing we have is our people,” he says. For now, General Zaluzhny says, he has enough soldiers. But the longer the war goes on, the harder it will be to sustain. “We need to look for this solution, we need to find this gunpowder, quickly master it and use it for a speedy victory. Because sooner or later we are going to find that we simply don’t have enough people to fight.”


TL;DR Ukraine needs a miracle weapon to win, and it is not at hand.

Now I see General Zaluzhny has more to say, on potential next steps for Ukraine, covered in today's ISW report.

(I need to get to bed, so no summary.)

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The Economist today reported on an interview with Ukraine’s commander-in-chief, General Valery Zaluzhny. Quotes from the article:

“Just like in the first world war we have reached the level of technology that puts us into a stalemate,” he says. The general concludes that it would take a massive technological leap to break the deadlock. “There will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough.”

Russia has lost at least 150,000 dead. In any other country such casualties would have stopped the war.” But not in Russia, where life is cheap and where Mr. Putin’s reference points are in the first and second world wars in which Russia lost tens of millions.

"...the level of our technological development today has put both us and our enemies in a stupor.”
“The simple fact is that we see everything the enemy is doing and they see everything we are doing. In order for us to break this deadlock we need something new, like the gunpowder which the Chinese invented and which we are still using to kill each other,” he says.

General Zaluzhny is desperately trying to prevent the war from settling into the trenches. “The biggest risk of an attritional trench war is that it can drag on for years and wear down the Ukrainian state,” he says.

Crimea, he believes, remains Mr Putin’s greatest vulnerability. It is the linchpin of his imperial restoration project, and his legitimacy rests on having brought it back to Russia.

A collapse in Ukrainian morale and Western support is precisely what Mr Putin is counting on. There is no question in General Zaluzhny’s mind that a long war favours Russia, a country with a population three times and an economy ten times the size of Ukraine’s. “Let’s be honest, it’s a feudal state where the cheapest resource is human life. And for us…the most expensive thing we have is our people,” he says. For now, General Zaluzhny says, he has enough soldiers. But the longer the war goes on, the harder it will be to sustain. “We need to look for this solution, we need to find this gunpowder, quickly master it and use it for a speedy victory. Because sooner or later we are going to find that we simply don’t have enough people to fight.”


TL;DR Ukraine needs a miracle weapon to win, and it is not at hand.

So Ukraine’s commander-in-chief admits it's a stalemate, and the longer it lasts the worse for Ukraine, exactly what Elon Musk predicted a year ago.

How many claimed last year that he doesn't know what he's talking about or he's a traitor for even suggesting this?
 
So Ukraine’s commander-in-chief admits it's a stalemate, and the longer it lasts the worse for Ukraine, exactly what Elon Musk predicted a year ago.

How many claimed last year that he doesn't know what he's talking about or he's a traitor for even suggesting this?

Everyone knows the longer it lasts the worse it is. Ukraine needs sufficient armaments to push Russia out asap.
 
Everyone knows the longer it lasts the worse it is. Ukraine needs sufficient armaments to push Russia out asap.
Read the article.

The commander-in-chief says even F-16 would not help now, they need some new miracle weapon to breakthrough. What is it? Nobody knows, may be drones + electronic warfare, but the possibility they can find this thing and get it to work quickly is small. Also gave very good history lesson about the invention of tanks in WWI: it didn't make a difference at the time, it needs decades of development to make a difference in WWII.

BTW, you know who builds the most drones? It's not the west.
 
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So Ukraine’s commander-in-chief admits it's a stalemate, and the longer it lasts the worse for Ukraine, exactly what Xxxx Xxxx predicted a year ago.

How many claimed last year that xx doesn't know what he's talking about or he's a traitor for even suggesting this?

Zaluzhnyi said the war is now "gradually moving to a positional form" on the terrestrial front. ISW explicitly states that Zaluzhnyi "notably refrained from classifying the situation as a full stalemate and instead framed it as a 'positional' war..." Positional wars can certainly become stalemates, but this is not necessarily so.

A few high profile persons incorrectly reported there was a stalemate last year. The immediate or later future may hold such, but those individuals were wrong. Those defending the mistaken assessment ignore the vast gains in the Black Sea by Ukraine, opening up their littoral grain corridor, tremendous manpower/materials attrition inflicted on Russia, and their markedly pushing back Russian land and sea logistics.
 
Everyone knows the longer it lasts the worse it is. Ukraine needs sufficient armaments to push Russia out asap.
The West, ie primarily Biden/his influencers/decision makers, has consistently been too late in delivering advanced weapons that would have resulted in much better results.

Moreover, a study of recent USA history showcases that America's attention wanes over time and thus the time to support heavily was the past versus the current which is now in a very muddled political environment.

Whether Musk knew that would occur or just threw in a speculative point of view doesn't really matter right now.

FWIW: A stalemate is worrisome since the West's long-term resolve will probably not match the Ru-Xi-Nk cabal and who knows how long Ukr's population will have the resolve to endure this war of attrition.
 
WSJ Article “Russia’s Wagner Group May Provide Air Defense Weapon to Hezbollah, U.S. Intel Says”
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Russia’s Wagner Group May Provide Air Defense Weapon to Hezbollah, U.S. Intel Says — The Wall Street Journal

Lebanese militant group could threaten a second front against Israel
apple.news
apple.news

It is clear that Russia / Ukraine is linked to the Israeli conflict. Reasons are pretty obvious - distraction and hopefully reduce support to UKR. It’s also clear to me what has to happen to stop it. More, not less support of UKR. Just like Russia sees it, so should we. If we want to help Israel, we need to increase our help for Ukraine.

I posted this in the other thread first..
 
WSJ Article “Russia’s Wagner Group May Provide Air Defense Weapon to Hezbollah, U.S. Intel Says”
apple.news

Russia’s Wagner Group May Provide Air Defense Weapon to Hezbollah, U.S. Intel Says — The Wall Street Journal

Lebanese militant group could threaten a second front against Israel
apple.news
apple.news

It is clear that Russia / Ukraine is linked to the Israeli conflict. Reasons are pretty obvious - distraction and hopefully reduce support to UKR. It’s also clear to me what has to happen to stop it. More, not less support of UKR. Just like Russia sees it, so should we. If we want to help Israel, we need to increase our help for Ukraine.

I posted this in the other thread first..

WSJ Article “Russia’s Wagner Group May Provide Air Defense Weapon to Hezbollah, U.S. Intel Says”
apple.news

Russia’s Wagner Group May Provide Air Defense Weapon to Hezbollah, U.S. Intel Says — The Wall Street Journal

Lebanese militant group could threaten a second front against Israel
apple.news
apple.news

It is clear that Russia / Ukraine is linked to the Israeli conflict. Reasons are pretty obvious - distraction and hopefully reduce support to UKR. It’s also clear to me what has to happen to stop it. More, not less support of UKR. Just like Russia sees it, so should we. If we want to help Israel, we need to increase our help for Ukraine.

I posted this in the other thread first..
The World situation begins to mirror other global conflicts. Worrisome times. Potential conflict partners:

Axis: Ru-China-Iran-North Korea-Cuba

Allies: USA-Israel-Canada-UK-Ukr & hopefully Germany-France-Japan-Poland

Probable fence sitters-Ireland, Swiss, balance of continental Europe, India, S America, Africa

TBD: Middle East

There is no early FDR nor Churchill right now for the good side
 
The World situation begins to mirror other global conflicts. Worrisome times. Potential conflict partners:

Axis: Ru-China-Iran-North Korea-Cuba

Allies: USA-Israel-Canada-UK-Ukr & hopefully Germany-France-Japan-Poland

Probable fence sitters-Ireland, Swiss, balance of continental Europe, India, S America, Africa

TBD: Middle East

There is no early FDR nor Churchill right now for the good side
Would argue the Allies list would be much longer and include a few other middleweights like South Korea, Australia, and most European countries (including Denmark, Belgium, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia...).

Agree - India, South America, and most of Africa would likely sit out; would add most of Central America and another key region - Southeast Asia. They would still export to the Western allies which would be helpful as a source of raw materials and low-value added products. With "de-risking" from China, this process if already underway but will take a few years before they can deliver in the quantities the West would need in a world level conflict.
 
Read the article.

Lol. A big-ass long boring looking article written without subtitles is meant to be fud for the ai web scrapers, not human eyes. I did feed it to the chatgpt though and oh boy.

The commander-in-chief says even F-16 would not help now, they need some new miracle weapon to breakthrough.

Known fact. "Too little, too late." But it helps. F-16 helps a bit now, and it helps for the future when Ukraine is in NATO.

What is it? Nobody knows, may be drones + electronic warfare, but the possibility they can find this thing and get it to work quickly is small.

Maybe further undercover operations deep inside the opponent zone.
 
Read the article.

The commander-in-chief says even F-16 would not help now, they need some new miracle weapon to breakthrough. What is it? Nobody knows, may be drones + electronic warfare, but the possibility they can find this thing and get it to work quickly is small. Also gave very good history lesson about the invention of tanks in WWI: it didn't make a difference at the time, it needs decades of development to make a difference in WWII.

BTW, you know who builds the most drones? It's not the west.

I've been saying since early in this war that it ultimately ends in Russia. Not that Ukraine is going to invade Russia, but it will end when Russia decides to end the war. Politically Putin would have a tough time ending this war and staying in power (or alive), but a Putin replacement could blame the entire war on Putin, pull out of Ukraine and maybe hold Russia together.

Other scenarios would be economic collapse in Russia and/or large scale rebellion.

Some new weapon that hasn't even been designed yet is not going to change the war. Even if there was a weapon as revolutionary as the tank or airplane in development now, it would be years before prototypes were available and years beyond that until enough were available to make a difference.

Just about every other country in the world would have thrown in the towel with the kind of losses Russia has suffered this far. Russia has a disregard for human life that is rare in the world today. They can culturally tolerate a lot more losses than most people thought early on.

But even with a high tolerance for losses the country is suffering. The quality of their military was poorer than anyone thought at the start of the war, but it's degraded dramatically since then, both from losses of more modern equipment and losses of trained men with almost no ability to train more. The Russian economy is getting weaker. Not only are the sanctions hitting Russia, but also they are bleeding out a generation of young men they vitally need to run the economy. Because of the demographics of Russia, the generation of young men fighting this war is small and it's also the generation they need to run the economy. The losses of these young men is going to impact their economy for the next 30 years or more.

Russia is able to stay in this war, but they are doing the equivalent of walking on a broken leg. It is hurtling like hell and they are doing a lot of damage to themselves in the process.

Ukraine is suffering quite badly too. The destruction to their country is severe and they are losing a lot of their younger people. But on the backside of this war hopefully the rest of the western world will stay the course and help them rebuild at which point they could become a major EU contributor in 10 years or so.

The future for Russia is bleak no matter how you slice it.
 
Interesting article providing some more direct evidence for @wdolson and others’ assessments of Russian weapon quality issues. I only translated the first part of the article.

”The Russian defense industry is a “colossus with feet of clay”, suffering from pervasive corruption, the strictest control of the special services and, contrary to the loud statements of the authorities, unable to offer the army truly modern weapons, passing off modified Soviet models as new developments or starting meaningless and unrealizable projects – like the Burevestnik missile with a nuclear power plant. This opinion about the state of the Russian military-industrial complex is shared by Evgenia Ilyinykh, in the recent past a design engineer at the Perm NPO Iskra, which produces, among other things, engines, nozzle blocks and other elements for Russian strategic missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads: Bulava, "Barguzina" and nuclear-powered rockets "Burevestnik", tests of which in the village of Nenoksa in 2019 ended in the death of people.

In 2014, after the outbreak of war in eastern Ukraine, Ilyinykh left the company and 8 years later left for the United States, making a trans transition. By this time, her mother was already living there, who was only surprised that her son had not previously admitted that he was a non-binary person - she herself had suspected this for a long time.

It was not by chance that Evgenia came to the plant: the history of her entire family is connected with Iskra.

“Historically, our whole family worked at this enterprise, grandparents, not in the last positions. Grandfather, Alexander Ivanovich Sabantsev, for some time was the right hand of Lev Lavrov (the second head of the Perm Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering, whose successor was NPO" Iskra,” who headed it from 1968 to 1994. – Note RS),” says Ilyinykh…”