We probably never will know all of the details on what raised the alarm. We don't know the full technical capabilities and limitations of the system, so we can't say for certain that it doesn't work in certain parts of Russia. But yes, that's an example of the imaginative Ukrainians integrating it into all sorts of weapons, well beyond the scope of what was originally intended.
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Russia/Ukraine conflict
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Putin Orders Mercenary Boss To Withdraw Troops From Ukraine Over Fears They Are 'Becoming Too Powerful & Pose A Threat' To Russian Leader
Anyone know how accurate radaronline.com is? This seems an odd time to be pulling forces off the front lines even if they are mercenaries. But then Putin has shown paranoid tendencies so reality may not be at play here.
Anyone know how accurate radaronline.com is? This seems an odd time to be pulling forces off the front lines even if they are mercenaries. But then Putin has shown paranoid tendencies so reality may not be at play here.
The article originally appeared in the Daily Mail
Putin pulls Russia's Wagner Group troops from Ukraine
It may be true. Putin may have plans to pull back Wagner and then federalize them into the regular army.
A sure-fire way to ensure loyalty for the truly paranoid indeed, what could go wrong?
trayloader
Member
OK so now it´s getting serious.
That will never, ever happen, before this will materialize, we will have an inner Army fight.
Those who deemed themselves "the frontline elite"and call the other clowns will refuse to budge,
yet at the same time the old "veterans" see these "young guys" as arch enemies with a bias and no expertise.
Fire and water.
Good.
It´s beginning to erode and sending shockwaves back to Kremlinbunker.
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petit_bateau
Active Member
from Guardian reporting
"Ukraine’s allies have said it is unlikely they will be able to supply the number of tanks they previously promised. After a meeting in Brussels of western defence ministers, the German defence minister, Boris Pistorius, said they would not be able reach the size of a battalion. A standard Ukrainian tank battalion comprises 31 tanks. Poland had offered to give 30 German-made tanks but many of them are in poor condition and need repairs before they can be deployed, said Pistorius, whose government had pledged 14. Portugal has promised an additional three tanks."
I think they are really discussing the numbers of the Leopards. So it looks like those 14+ British Challengers and approx 30 US Abrams are going to be significant in the overall count of Western tanks. However it seems that there will be further Leopards flowing as fast as they can be rebuilt.
"Ukraine’s allies have said it is unlikely they will be able to supply the number of tanks they previously promised. After a meeting in Brussels of western defence ministers, the German defence minister, Boris Pistorius, said they would not be able reach the size of a battalion. A standard Ukrainian tank battalion comprises 31 tanks. Poland had offered to give 30 German-made tanks but many of them are in poor condition and need repairs before they can be deployed, said Pistorius, whose government had pledged 14. Portugal has promised an additional three tanks."
I think they are really discussing the numbers of the Leopards. So it looks like those 14+ British Challengers and approx 30 US Abrams are going to be significant in the overall count of Western tanks. However it seems that there will be further Leopards flowing as fast as they can be rebuilt.
X Fan
Active Member
Good graphic comparing Ru's losses to previous modern wars:
Good analysis. The Russians are suffering an unsustainable loss rate. 0.144% appears low, but that gets the entire army killed in 2 years and they're 1 year in now.
My partner saw a thing yesterday that said 97% of the entire Russian army is either in Ukraine or poised to enter Ukraine right now.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
The losses were about 1/2 those at present for the first 8+ months of the war.
The uncertain parameter not discussed here are the soldiers removed from the battle field due to injury.
Many of those wounded or injured will not be able to return. I saw that cold injuries are way up too. On par with what the US Army experienced in western Europe in the winter of 1944-45. Many of those will not return.
The Russian losses in the first 8 months were lower per day, but they had a smaller force committed. The now have more troops committed and are suffering higher losses. The loss rate per day may be about the same.
If they have 97% of the army committed to this, that leaves nobody for other activities like training, garrisoning outposts, etc. They are gutting their military trying to maintain the force in Ukraine. Like the analogy I made a few months back. It's like trying to run with a torn knee tendon. You can do it for a bit, it's going to hurt like hell, and it's going to make the damage a lot worse.
They are doing generational damage to their army.
bkp_duke
Well-Known Member
You are absolutely delusional. Literally nothing you have predicted has come to fruition, and Russia is tearing through defenses in the east right now. Ukraine will pull out of Bakmhut in the next week and you will champion this as a strategic move
Tearing through defenses? The Russians may very well take Bakmhut, but it will be an EPICLY costly win for them. Something that they were supposed to conquer, by all accounts, 6 months ago. A win of a town with little to no strategic value after the Russians lost thousands of square kilometers north of there in the fall, making the pincer movement that Bakmhut was key to, pointless.
Who's delusional now?
Silly people here, what you gonna believe, your lying eyes or uncle Putin who continues to tell us that all is going according to plan? What a victory for Russia this all has been! 
BitJam
Active Member
I learned a lot from this interview with Anne Applebaum, for example the political difficulties in Poland and the strong anti-German feelings there. She stresses the point that the war will only be over when Ukraine wins. As I said previously: the military conflict will end when Russia re-aligns its reality and not before.
There's a previous interview with Francis Fukuyama that was also interesting. Applebaum and Fukuyama make many of the same points. They seem to have similar world views. They both provide perspective on why it's vital we continue to support Ukraine.
There's a previous interview with Francis Fukuyama that was also interesting. Applebaum and Fukuyama make many of the same points. They seem to have similar world views. They both provide perspective on why it's vital we continue to support Ukraine.
There is no need to walk back on my statement because they are still true today.
In the meantime, Ukraine Army has confirmed that Starlink continues to work well at the frontline for all intended purposes. No cells have been deactivated. It's great to see that SpaceX despite the comment from Shotwell continuously supports Ukraine in their justified defensive fight against the aggressor Russia
petit_bateau
Active Member
I think the tone of your original Tweet was regrettable and misled a lot of people.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
Spend your own money on your favorite causes. In the meantime, tell us about all the money spent by the domestic German ICE manufacturers in support of UKR.
mars_or_bust
Member
I am actually quite dissapointed by Georgia. This would be an ideal time to kick the Russians out of the occupied territories. I know their current government seems to be installed/bought out by Russia, but would not be surprised if a kind of uprising a la Maidan is brewing....
