I remember hearing about a discharge petition during the budget negotiates. It was described as something that takes quite some time to get through. Easier said than done unfortunately.
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Russia/Ukraine conflict
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I remember hearing about a discharge petition during the budget negotiates. It was described as something that takes quite some time to get through. Easier said than done unfortunately.
Everything has cloture slapped on it now. Cloture is a backdoor form of filibuster. One side slaps cloture on everything now, which requires 60 votes to get past.
All Republicans voted against it along with Menedez of New Jersey, Padilla of California, Sanders of Vermont, Warren of Massachusetts, and Schumer of New York. The leadership usually holds back and votes last, for procedural reasons. Someone who votes no on a losing vote can come back later and claim they have reconsidered to bring about a new vote. This leaves the door open for the vote to happen again. Some of the other nos might have been doing the same thing.
The bill approving aid for Ukraine and Israel did get past cloture, but it's destined to die in the House.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us...aid-bill-after-failed-border-deal-2024-02-08/
Buckminster
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Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
I'd personally pay for any Starlink terminal in use by Russians in Eastern Ukraine. Preferrably in use at their HQs, if they are foolish enough to do so.
SL terminal sends its exact location back to the sat. network in real time. You can 'unsubcribe' that high-value target at the decisive moment via OTA update (from a GLSDB battery -- 10 min before a squadron of Abrams smashes thru their position). Chaos.
Even if the Russians are sending encrypted traffic, that worse still for Russians. They may believe their traffic is secure, then Ouch! Who killed more NAZI's in WW2, George S. Patton or Alan Turing? Who sank the Japanese Carrier Task Force, "Bull" Halsey or "Purple" intercepts? The U.S. has supercomputers. The Russians are fools if they are using Starlink.
TL;dr Amateurs should not use crypto.
P.S. SL v2 birds with 'sky-to-grd' cell capabilities can locate and intercept any standard LTE cell phone in the area (moblik's pockets). The map plot paints what is known as a "target-rich environment". I'd love to run that war-room.
P.P.S. Denys is over his head, he should settle down and think instead of reacting emotionally.
See above. This is a hemorrhage/shock for Russian commanders. I'd use the opportunity to bleed them when it hurts.
For everyone else, if you don't think this is likely, read your history about Howard Hughes' Glomar Explorer, the ship which recovered parts from sunken Russian ballistic-missile submarine K-129 off Oahu in 1974.
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Four of the least reliable voices on the Ukraine war all mentioned in one post.
So about 70 years ago there was a cold war with the Soviet Union that lasted for about 50 years. Instead of universal health(joking, sort of) care we decided to build an arsenal to take on the Soviet Union.
But then that war never happened so we stuck this arsenal into a bunch of warehouses to gather dust for all of eternity.
Most of what we give Ukraine comes from these warehouses. Its things we would never use in a war today and things we have no reason to replace.
OK, I wrote the above, what, five days ago? And I was honestly expecting that it would take until Trump got back into office before doing all the toadying up and all. Little did I know that two days ago the prediction would come true, early.
Did I win something?
bobby g
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Am invite to Trump's next partyOK, I wrote the above, what, five days ago? And I was honestly expecting that it would take until Trump got back into office before doing all the toadying up and all. Little did I know that two days ago the prediction would come true, early.
Did I win something?
navguy12
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From this morning’s Guardian newsfeed:
www.theguardian.com
Russia-Ukraine war at a glance: what we know on day 719
Starlink getting into Russian troops’ hands, says Ukraine; US Senate on brink of putting aid bill through to House
www.theguardian.com
navguy12
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navguy12
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Nato chief says Trump remarks may put US and EU lives at risk
Jens Stoltenberg says Nato ‘ready and able to defend all allies’, after Trump invited Russia to attack member countries
www.theguardian.com
Russia-Ukraine war live: Ukrainian air defence systems destroy Russian drones and cruise missile – as it happened
Ukrainian air force says 14 out of 17 drones and one Kh-59 cruise missile destroyed after Russia launched them
www.theguardian.com
DanCar
Active Member
If the speaker of the House allows a vote on the Senate aid package for Ukraine, will the right wing ask again for speaker to be removed? And if they do, will democrats go along again with it and oust the speaker?
www.politico.com
Quote: Intel Chair Mike Turner says he’s confident Speaker Mike Johnson will allow a vote on a Senate aid package.
‘We have to get this done’: A top House Republican pushes for Ukraine aid, stat
Intel Chair Mike Turner says he's confident Speaker Mike Johnson will allow a vote on a Senate aid package.
www.politico.com
I would like to clarify this statement.
Amateurs absolutely should use cryptography that is designed and implemented by experts.
I can personally assure you that Starlink cryptography was designed and implemented by experts. I just can't tell you how I know.
navguy12
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Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Cool. Cound you also tell me about the 'NSA Key' in my Microsoft Windows Registry?
Russians are fools if they depend on Starlink, both for connectivity (located) and security (cyrpto).
IMO a lot of Elon's extremist opinions these days are originating with the company he is keeping. Emotionally he's 13. He wants to belong to the cool kid's clique and his "friends" are using him for their own ends.
Just because someone is brilliant in one area doesn't mean they are even capable in all areas. Frequently extremely intelligent people have huge gaps in their capability to get on in the world. I've known a number of them.
Yes, most of what's being sent to Ukraine is military surplus. A lot of MRAPs were sent because the US bought a lot of them during the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, but now that those wars are over, the US military doesn't want them anymore. They were designed for crew survival if they drove over an IED. It also makes them very survivable if they hit a mine.
The US is still using a lot of cold war equipment. Heck the B-52 is still in service. The newest B-52 is older than I am, and I'm not exactly a kid.
If the speaker of the House allows a vote on the Senate aid package for Ukraine, will the right wing ask again for speaker to be removed? And if they do, will democrats go along again with it and oust the speaker?
Quote: Intel Chair Mike Turner says he’s confident Speaker Mike Johnson will allow a vote on a Senate aid package.‘We have to get this done’: A top House Republican pushes for Ukraine aid, stat
Intel Chair Mike Turner says he's confident Speaker Mike Johnson will allow a vote on a Senate aid package.
When the Republicans took control of the House in 2023, they slipped in a new rule that any single member could start the process to eliminate the Speaker. Matt Gaetz used it to turf out Kevin McCarthy. It could be used again to get rid of Johnson if he doesn't do what the most extreme members of the caucus wants. And they want chaos and dysfunction.
I'm not optimistic about the chances of Johnson allowing a vote on the air package.
