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Sherrif Deputy Threatens to take away my M3

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So I was using smart summon in a private neighborhood clubhouse. I was standing 25-50 feet from the car and was watching it carefully. Then, a sheriff deputy (Lawrenceville, GA) came in his car and came out, telling me that a driver NEEDS to be in the vehicle while an autonomous function is on. Me, all scared and nervous, said that Summon is supposed to come to the driver’s location, and I am able to stop the vehicle at any time. However he threatened to pound my vehicle if I am not in the vehicle while summon is on. I later called the police department and confirmed that the sheriff was wrong. However, as he is a sheriff deputy, he should know the laws better, also this was a private neighborhood... however this situation has left me shook and am scared to use summon again...
Has this happened to anyone?!
Print out a piece of paper stating you're legally doing this and it is legal per /////////////////////////////// at the Sheriff's Department. If he doesn't accept that, tell him to phone home...so to speak.
 
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Not always true in all jurisdictions. Sometimes shopping centers and mall lots are considered public for policing purposes.
I haven't checked all states, but the traffic code applies only to public roads in TX, CA and NY. CA has an exception that allows HOAs to request police to treat the private roads as public, but I don't think this ever applies to mall parking lots.
 
I haven't checked all states, but the traffic code applies only to public roads in TX, CA and NY. CA has an exception that allows HOAs to request police to treat the private roads as public, but I don't think this ever applies to mall parking lots.

Eh, yes and no. Go do donuts in a private Ralphs parking lot and see if the cops don't take you to the principles office... :p or park in a handicapped space.

But yes, it's a grey area and seems to come down to severity of the offense. Some jurisdictions define "publicly accessible roads" differently to include "places of public congregation" and other weird stuff.
 
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Eh, yes and no. Go do donuts in a private Ralphs parking lot and see if the cops don't take you to the principles office... :p or park in a handicapped space.

But yes, it's a grey area and seems to come down to severity of the offense. Some jurisdictions define "publicly accessible roads" differently to include "places of public congregation" and other weird stuff.

Absolutely!

Cops may notice a crime (e.g. a burglary at a home) and step in. But vehicle codes are a bit different. Donuts in a public parking lot (think if you owned it) would be totally permissible, as we have vehicle exhibitions at arenas. If the owner complained and asked you to leave, that would be trespass. Anyone can put up a 2MPH speed limit sign on private property, that's a 1A right. But the cops don't have to authority to enforce that sign (e.g. "EV Parking only")

In places like CA, handicap parking and parking in EV spots needed the CA legislature to step in and actually pass a law. In those cases, police and traffic enforcement officers are free to ticket and/or tow.

But paint a curb red on your private property, the cops won't come out to ticket nor to tow. Usually those have to be registered with the city/municipality to be official. Again, 1A to do whatever you want to your own property.

Usually why places like shopping malls have security, people "authorized" by the property owner to make requests and then to request the person leave - when that doesn't happen, it turns into trespass. Do donuts, and don't leave? Trespass. Speed, and ignore the mall cop? All good until they ask you to leave.
 
You could kindly let the sheriff know he's on private property, and without grounds or permission from anyone present, or a letter from HoA stating the time and date allowed, to be on said property he would have to leave the property lines.

Last time you checked it was perfectly legal to drive a remote controlled anything on private property, and if he does not leave said private property, he will be in violation of trespassing rights, in which he will get a nice letter from a person who can actually afford a good attorney to sue the local district.

Well that's how it would of gone if a police officer entered my gated community without security escort, or followed someone in doing a moving violation outside the community.

Most cops wait for you to drive out of private property before they flag you, unless ur doing something really stupid like sniffing coke right in front of them on private property.

Even if you downed a bottle of alcohol in front of them on private property, they would not flag you until you drove off it, and then your in for a DUI.
 
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You could kindly let the sheriff know he's on private property, and without grounds or permission from anyone present, or a letter from HoA stating the time and date allowed, to be on said property he would have to leave the property lines.

Last time you checked it was perfectly legal to drive a remote controlled anything on private property, and if he does not leave said private property, he will be in violation of trespassing rights, in which he will get a nice letter from a person who can actually afford a good attorney to sue the local district.

Well that's how it would of gone if a police officer entered my gated community without security escort, or followed someone in doing a moving violation outside the community.

Most cops wait for you to drive out of private property before they flag you, unless ur doing something really stupid like sniffing coke right in front of them on private property.

Even if you downed a bottle of alcohol in front of them on private property, they would not flag you until you drove off it, and then your in for a DUI.


So is using Summon while drinking a DUI?