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InTheShadows
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I would say no. I was in the Devon PA service center last week and all the cars on their lot waiting for delivery had the sensors.
The Blue Owl
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Ebola is tangential and is not at the core of today's panic, it is only adding a bit of fuel to the fire. The fire is the plummeting price of oil, questions about whether central banks may be much less potent going forward in easing economic shocks, and the cascading effect this has on bond and equities markets globally.
I have preserved some trivial capital today by shorting the Dow and NASDAQ, but this is not something I enjoy doing.
The Blue Owl
Endangerous Herbivore
Flux, I see what you're saying, that the core concerns about the oil price and lack of growth are chronic, and probably more important in the long run, and that one could make the case that Ebola shouldn't be of such great concern. However, markets also respond to acute threats, and Ebola is as acute as it gets. The fact that the health system is fumbling its response while it learns to deal with an unprecedented situation doesn't help.
My point is that you may be less concerned, personally, about this because you think it will be controlled, and because the other factors should worry us more. I don't disagree (at least not strongly), but Ebola does feel like a sudden, significant threat to the market. We're not down >2% because of slow growth.
It's like the Tesla fire panic on a much larger scale, with much bigger potential consequences, and with less of a reassuring outlook.
Having said this, I do agree with your take on the macro thread. Just not with the diagnosis of today's action
My point is that you may be less concerned, personally, about this because you think it will be controlled, and because the other factors should worry us more. I don't disagree (at least not strongly), but Ebola does feel like a sudden, significant threat to the market. We're not down >2% because of slow growth.
It's like the Tesla fire panic on a much larger scale, with much bigger potential consequences, and with less of a reassuring outlook.
Having said this, I do agree with your take on the macro thread. Just not with the diagnosis of today's action
Flux, I see what you're saying, that the core concerns about the oil price and lack of growth are chronic, and probably more important in the long run, and that one could make the case that Ebola shouldn't be of such great concern. However, markets also respond to acute threats, and Ebola is as acute as it gets. The fact that the health system is fumbling its response while it learns to deal with an unprecedented situation doesn't help.
My point is that you may be less concerned, personally, about this because you think it will be controlled, and because the other factors should worry us more. I don't disagree (at least not strongly), but Ebola does feel like a sudden, significant threat to the market. We're not down >2% because of slow growth.
It's like the Tesla fire panic on a much larger scale, with much bigger potential consequences, and with less of a reassuring outlook.
Having said this, I do agree with your take on the macro thread. Just not with the diagnosis of today's action
Good stuff -- agree on Ebola having significant effect on market today, just not on scale perhaps. Retesting lows in DIA and QQQ now, this is looking to be a massive market panic today.
Dow off over 400, that's historic.
The Blue Owl
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pz1975
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There are several threads in the Energy, Environment and Policy section about Stationary Storage (e.g. Battery storage and solar) and a whole subforum on batteries (Battery Discussion). Once Tesla has definitely moved into the space, we'll probably need to add a section under Tesla Motors. Until then, one or more threads in that section should suffice.
At this moment, TSLA is holding its ground better than the popular market averages, and significantly better than General Motors or Ford. Such relative strength is a good sign, and should bode particularly well for TSLA once the overall market storm passes.
Indeed, buyers are trickling back into TSLA, which is a good sign. I think we were way oversold on the post-event dip so room to go up, assuming macro market stabilizes.
I'm hearing that if SPX closes below 1830 or so, some funds will be selling large chunks of equities tomorrow.
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I've moved some posts over to Social Chat - Short Term TSLA Movements and another to Tesla Investor's General Macroeconomic Analysis / Market Discussion Thread
Let's try to keep this thread for discussion/analysis of short-term prices, rather than our trading or reactions.
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Chickenlittle
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Don't rely on cdc. There was a case of Ebola in Reston va that was known to cdc and a handler of the infected monkey admitted to community hospital. Cdc decided not to inform his physicians to prevent a panic. It was later named the Reston strain. It turns out that it does not cause disease in humans (not known at the time of dx). This was about 25 yrs ago. Don't depend on cdc for rational decisions
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