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Model 3

On March 31st, Tesla will unveil the Model 3. A deposit of $1,000 is required to place a reservation. One item of note: the federal government gives a $7,500 tax credit for purchasing an EV, but only to the first 200,000 vehicles made by the same manufacturer in the U.S. This is important because Tesla has already sold approximately 50,000 vehicles in the U.S. so far, and should sell another 50,000 by the time Model 3 becomes available. That means that only the first 100,000 U.S. reservation holders should expect the rebate. My prediction is that we will see a mad rush during the first few days to place a reservation. 1 million reservations in 2016 is not unachievable, in my opinion. That would be the equivalent of a $1 billion loan, interest-free.

Good write up. I think they'll be closer to 140K sold in US by the end of 2017, and selling about 4,000 Model S and X combined per month in 2018. There was math done somewhere back, but I believe they've sold about half there cars in the US, so

Up to 2012 Roadster: Say 1,500
2012: Guess all S to US, say 2,500
2013: Guess half S to US, say 12,000
2014: Guess half S to US, say 16,000
2015: Guess half S/X to US, say 25,000
2016: Guess half S/X to US, say 40,000
2017: Guess half S/X to US, say 45,000

So a little over 140K in US by end of 2017, with number increasing 4,000/month if they miss end of 2017 target.
 
1 million reservations in 2016 is not unachievable, in my opinion. That would be the equivalent of a $1 billion loan, interest-free.

Great post. I agree with basically everything you stated and think the shorts are going to get crushed, but I'm not sure that the M3 deposits are that simple. Since the $1,000 deposit is refundable, doesn't it have to be stored in a separate escrow account? Can Tesla literally take deposit money and spend it on things such as CapEx, just as if it were a loan?
 
Can't wait for the Seeking Alpha article on how the new changes to the teslamotorsclub website are proof positive that the website is doomed, run by someone who has no knowledge of business or engineering, looses money on every forum post and it's clear that mercedes superior knowledge of all things internet will soon turn this into a ghost site.

I like it. Just takes a bit of getting used to.

For true, for true. I was unable to figure it out last night, but I think I'm getting used to it, too. I think they made a change or two overnight. Must have installed that Mercedes code.
 
Hi all,
Slight long shot. But can anybody recommend a good trading website that would allow me to buy and sell TSLA from the UK within an ISA. Not as part of a fund?
Thanks

Hello TE5LA and others. I've been a long time lurker, but have always felt I really have very little to contribute against the astonishing expertise already expressed in this forum.

But now I can make a small contribution which may be of use to TE5LA. I invest in TSLA through an ISA (A kind of tax free sand pit for UK investors to play in). I use HSBC who provide an Invest Direct Account. Transaction fees are a little steep for US securities, about $30 per trade, but there is the benefit of not having to wait 3 days before redeploying the proceeds of a share sale. Sort of like trading on margin without having margin. It's a simple product...no fancy stuff like option trading or borrowing shares to short.

But I wouldn't want to short anyway...the mis-steps we have seen so far in TeslaMotors are in my opinion absolutely minuscule in comparison to the massive potential of the vision.

And by the way, I live in Cornwall also!
 
This is more related to Teslamotorsclub than Tesla's stock, but I'm not sure where to post this since I can't find a thread about the website overhaul. What happened to Teslamotorsclub? The new template, while a lot more mobile friendly is very glitchy and needs some work. I'm having trouble editing posts on my iPhone, the ads don't display fully on my iPhone, and the colors bleed together.
 
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Great post. I agree with basically everything you stated and think the shorts are going to get crushed, but I'm not sure that the M3 deposits are that simple. Since the $1,000 deposit is refundable, doesn't it have to be stored in a separate escrow account? Can Tesla literally take deposit money and spend it on things such as CapEx, just as if it were a loan?
It does not have to be stored in escrow. It is a loan with zero percent interest.
 
I wrote the following summary of the current state of TSLA for some friends who wanted my 2 cents last week. My apologies for the length, and feel free to shoot holes in anything stated.


Hello all,

There are several items occurring surrounding TSLA that another update is warranted. Let’s examine where we are, in order to have more clarity into the future.

Stock Price

The past year has not been kind to TSLA. There are 4 primary reasons that the price has taken a hit…here they are, and let’s examine each reason individually:

  1. Decline in oil prices will affect EV demand

  2. Short interest has increased

  3. Delay in Model X shows difficulty in production

  4. Cash flow extremely negative in 2015

Oil Price and Demand

The Model S was the best selling luxury vehicle in the U.S. in 2015. It outsold the BMW 7 series, Audi A7, and Mercedes S class. That was accomplished without advertising. The Model X has 30,000 reservations. The Model 3 will be revealed at the end of the month, with reservations beginning at that time. Although oil prices have affected overall demand for electric vehicles (EVs), Tesla has not seen demand affected whatsoever. Therefore, any decline in the stock price due to the lower oil prices is unwarranted in the medium term.


Short Interest

Since July of 2015, short interest in TSLA has increased dramatically from 24 million shares to 34 million shares…over 30% of the float. (Source: Tesla Motors, Inc. (TSLA) Short Interest) That equates to over $2 billion in additional short interest. Needless to say, that has put tremendous pressure on the stock price. I do not believe that short interest will go significantly higher (due to higher interest rates being charged for additional stock to be available to short), rather will revert to the mean in the relatively near future of around 27 million shares. Holding a short position in TSLA during the Model 3 reveal will be quite precarious.


Model X

The Model X is over-engineered. It is simply more complicated than it needed to be. This has caused significant delays in production, and also holds risk in possible recalls in the future. As a result of these delays, the stock has taken a hit due to fewer deliveries and cash burn. We are seeing movement, however, in deliveries over the past few weeks. Tesla has announced that they should achieve 1,000 deliveries per week sometime in Q2 of this year. Initial reviews of Model X have been overwhelmingly positive. If Tesla can stick to that schedule and avoid recalls, it would bode well for the stock price.


Cash Flow

A common bear argument against TSLA is how fast it is ‘burning through cash’. It has been cited that TSLA loses $19,000 per car sold (http://www.newsmax.com/Finance/StreetTalk/SeekingAlpha-Tesla-Lose-Car-Sold/2015/11/03/id/700421/). When discussing this topic, it’s important to understand the difference between GAAP and non-GAAP accounting when it comes to TSLA. When Tesla leases a vehicle, it gets paid 100% for that vehicle immediately from the leasing company. It cannot report that income, however, because of the risk associated with the possibility of lower-than-expected residual value of that vehicle….they have to spread out the income over the life of the lease. Residual values are higher than expected, as the vehicles are holding their value very well. Using non-GAAP accounting allows TSLA to report 100% of that income immediately.


Tesla has also announced that it has closed a previous loan and opened an Asset-Backed Line of Credit (ABL). This is essentially a loan, with finished goods (i.e., cars in transit) as collateral. As more vehicles are in transit to customers, the ABL will grow as well. They have announced that with this ABL, they are cash flow positive right now. Critics say that this is fuzzy accounting and is simply more debt. But it is important to understand that these vehicles have already been ordered. They are not merely being shipped to a dealer’s lot, which could sit for months. They are being shipped to customers that have ordered that particular vehicle. So essentially, the ABL pays Tesla for the car as it leaves the factory rather than when the customer pays for it. Being cash flow positive in 2016 with the ABL is a significant leap towards funding growth internally.


Secondly, Capital Expenditures (CapEx) have been significant during 2015. They have invested heavily in the Supercharger network, service centers, the Gigafactory, and tooling. These investments will give Tesla a huge advantage in the future if electric vehicles become commonplace. Furthermore, much of this CapEx spending on tooling has already occurred for the Model 3. Specifically, the paint shop and the stamp press line already have the capacity of 500,000 cars per year. Most importantly, TSLA is predicting to be free cash flow positive by the end of the year. This is later than they previously predicted, but if they can fund their growth with revenue (rather than additional debt or secondary offerings) then this bear argument ceases to exist.


Model 3

On March 31st, Tesla will unveil the Model 3. A deposit of $1,000 is required to place a reservation. One item of note: the federal government gives a $7,500 tax credit for purchasing an EV, but only to the first 200,000 vehicles made by the same manufacturer in the U.S. This is important because Tesla has already sold approximately 50,000 vehicles in the U.S. so far, and should sell another 50,000 by the time Model 3 becomes available. That means that only the first 100,000 U.S. reservation holders should expect the rebate. My prediction is that we will see a mad rush during the first few days to place a reservation. 1 million reservations in 2016 is not unachievable, in my opinion. That would be the equivalent of a $1 billion loan, interest-free.


In summary, the stock price has been battered due to the false premise that demand for Tesla vehicles will shrink due to low oil prices, coupled with a dramatic increase in short positions. Tesla is in better shape financially than it has ever been. The Model 3 reveal, especially if they disclose the number of reservations in the days that follow, could give the stock price a real boost. There is not another stock, with revenue growing at 50% per year, that trades at just over 3x this year’s revenue (For comparison, Home Depot trades at 2x revenue: McDonald’s trades at over 4x revenue). It is true that if TSLA is just another auto manufacturer, then the stock is overpriced. But if TSLA is anything other than that…if it is something different, something that we’ve never encountered…..then the stock is potentially wildly underpriced.

This is a great write-up, thanks for sharing hogfighter. This forum could do with more of this kind of analysis, the likes of which we saw in 2013 and 2014.
 
Good write up. I think they'll be closer to 140K sold in US by the end of 2017, and selling about 4,000 Model S and X combined per month in 2018. There was math done somewhere back, but I believe they've sold about half there cars in the US, so

Up to 2012 Roadster: Say 1,500
2012: Guess all S to US, say 2,500
2013: Guess half S to US, say 12,000
2014: Guess half S to US, say 16,000
2015: Guess half S/X to US, say 25,000
2016: Guess half S/X to US, say 40,000
2017: Guess half S/X to US, say 45,000

So a little over 140K in US by end of 2017, with number increasing 4,000/month if they miss end of 2017 target.

My sense is that no outsider will get the Federal ITC. What ever is left will be taken out by employees. I don't think there will be any mention of federal rebate in the reveal event.

I originally wanted to buy an X about 3years from now. But I think I will accelerate that plan to buy in second half of 2017 to get the ITC. I sense a rush of S/X orders coming-in before Model 3 production.
 
I hope Julian comes off his banishment before the M3 unveiling. Looking forward to discussing how this is going to play out. Already expecting the reservation numbers from the morning of the 31st to make an appearance in the unveiling event. I think it would be hilarious if Elon started by mentioning the fact that they now have 54,000 (or whatever) reservations for the Model 3... And by the way, here is the car!

Strangely, the reps at our local store are somehow convinced there will only be pictures of the M3. I let them know how ridiculous that is. We now have a standing bet. I am also working with the Mall staff to figure out the camping situation.
 
I visited the Rocklin, CA store for the first time yesterday. Totally solar powered - panels everywhere. The staff does not know yet at what time they will begin taking reservations for Model 3 on the 31st. I'll be calling the week of to find out. By the way, three Model Xs in view. Looks like they just came off the delivery truck.
 
I hope Julian comes off his banishment before the M3 unveiling. Looking forward to discussing how this is going to play out. Already expecting the reservation numbers from the morning of the 31st to make an appearance in the unveiling event. I think it would be hilarious if Elon started by mentioning the fact that they now have 54,000 (or whatever) reservations for the Model 3... And by the way, here is the car!

Strangely, the reps at our local store are somehow convinced there will only be pictures of the M3. I let them know how ridiculous that is. We now have a standing bet. I am also working with the Mall staff to figure out the camping situation.

You are sure to lose your bet. Quote from Musk: "The first pictures of the Model 3 will be end of March," he said. "I am being a little coy here. We are not gonna show everything about the Model 3 until a lot closer to production time."
Not only is it only going to be pictures, but it won't even be of the entire car.

New Tesla Model 3: launch date, price and latest details
 
One thing I don't like about the new layout is I can't see how many posts members have or the date they joined, at least on mobile. Really helped to figure out who is new here vs. who has been around and knows what they are talking about.
 
You are sure to lose your bet. Quote from Musk: "The first pictures of the Model 3 will be end of March," he said. "I am being a little coy here. We are not gonna show everything about the Model 3 until a lot closer to production time."
Not only is it only going to be pictures, but it won't even be of the entire car.

New Tesla Model 3: launch date, price and latest details
How is the bold underlined sentence contradicts with showing the car and pictures on Mar 31?
 
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