The risk that would pose to the master plan is huge. There would be so much R&D, and so many questions in the mind of the general public. Sales would suffer. It would be FWD x 10.
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The risk that would pose to the master plan is huge. There would be so much R&D, and so many questions in the mind of the general public. Sales would suffer. It would be FWD x 10.
roblab
Active Member
Sorry, it may be fair game, but it's like comparing large apples with small ones. Sure, the 3 is nice. Maybe half as nice as an S. But the S is larger, safer, roomier, and who knows how many other superlatives. AND YOU CAN OWN IT NOW! I have an order in for a 3 in case, in 3 years, I want to downgrade to something smaller. Did not say better.
Did the BMW3 kill the market for the BMW5?
In Europe, smaller is more the norm. That doesn't mean it's better, just that European roads and garages are narrow.
The S is the flagship. I don't see the 3 cannibalizing anything. Those of us over 6' may always appreciate the larger beauty.
BriansTesla
Old school meets new tech
tinm
2020 Model S LR+ Owner
And now for something completely different: and more related to short term TSLA price fluctuations.
The #PanamaPapers. You all know about this, right?
Almost no mention of American companies or wealthy persons yet. But mention is coming.
What happens to the stock if one or more investors/executives of Tesla/SpaceX are somehow involved? What happens if Elon's name pops up in the 2.6 terabytes of documents?
The #PanamaPapers. You all know about this, right?
Almost no mention of American companies or wealthy persons yet. But mention is coming.
What happens to the stock if one or more investors/executives of Tesla/SpaceX are somehow involved? What happens if Elon's name pops up in the 2.6 terabytes of documents?
Luckily, we know Elon keeps his money in Tesla, SpaceX, and SolarCity. I truly doubt he has any shell companies, regardless of how many terabytes there are. This actually doesn't seem related to TSLA at all.
I'm not convinced it'll be a side-stick controller, but I am willing to entertain that thought. Reading Elon's tweet response, " Wait until you see the real steering controls and system for the 3. It feels like a spaceship" made me think very broadly. Personally, as an investor I'd be nervous about a side-stick controller and since Model 3 needs to be a success, most likely you are right. Nonetheless, at some point autonomous vehicles will indeed move away from a big steering wheel and towards something like a side-stick controller, before controls disappear altogether (not looking forward to that day). I see the layout of the dash as conducive to alternative designs.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
Tesla can't even get the government to approve replacing a mirror with a camera, and you think they'll allow removing the steering wheel? Come on people, come back to earth please.
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
Indeed, not to mention the S 2 years from now is going to be more impressive than the S of today.
sundaymorning
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You must not have seen the X in person, the thing is a stud. S is still much nicer than 3. Not to mention roomier.
sundaymorning
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All the interior controls talk is getting out of hand. Elon's comment shouldn't be taken literally. What he means is that the interior will look great, similar to his second row seat comment on the X, "it looks like a museum." Does the the X second row really look like a museum? No, but it's darn cool to look at and luxurious as heck.
I agree, you guys are making me nervous.
As it stands, Model 3 is virtually a guaranteed earth-shattering success. But there is still the potential to grab defeat from the jaws of victory by introducing the latest whiz bang idea that turns out to be much more complicated than expected.
Maybe it is time for Tesla to implement a hard and fast rule that any brilliant new design ideas from here on out go into Model Y or Model 3 v 2.0. For Model 3 v 1.0 -- just get 'er done, get the ball into the end zone, KISS, and all that good stuff.
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I'm a young person and I'd detest a stick.
One big problem with sticks is that roads have imperfections. Hit one bump and suddenly your hand is jarred, causing your car to follow your hand right into the guardrail.
Worse yet, you brake hard by bringing the joystick back--the brake flings you forward, causing you to suddenly ludicrous mode your car straight through the back of the minivan in front of you.
You only have one hand to help stabilize controls with a center-mounted stick. You have two hands with a steering wheel.
In fighter jets you only have air to worry about perfect, predictable air.
Roads are two-dimensional. Jets are three-dimensional.
A stick is only a good idea for a car that's going to be 99.99%+ of the time driven autonomously. US regulation will definitely not be at that point, nor would Tesla emphasize performance if their intention was to rarely/never have people drive the car.
dmckinstry
Model X 2019
Rob,
My S is approaching it's 3rd "birthday." In another 3 years I may replace it with an X, just because I may want easier access. If not for that, I still wouldn't want anything smaller than an S.
And those m3 reservation holders will be invited to test drive an s and a good number of them will be converted to s and x sales during wait for the m3.
Not true. The S and the X have a steering shaft and rack/pinion. Accellerator is "drive-by-wire" but the important steering and braking is mechanical. Your Golf is accelerator by wire only.
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