You call it tombstone, I call it inverted hammer - same thing.
Regarding the volume, my feeling is that if there is going to be a fight to close above $209, we'll se a lot of volume in the last trading hour
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Regarding the volume, my feeling is that if there is going to be a fight to close above $209, we'll se a lot of volume in the last trading hour
"Do we know the US cumulative delivery of all Teslas to date? And can we get a close estimate to what the 2016 exit number for US will be?"
Try the European Registration wiki. Tesla Europe Registration Stats
Try the European Registration wiki. Tesla Europe Registration Stats
excellent post. most people will learn in a relatively short space of time if your product sucks.
you're correct but there is so far to go. People may get bored of a Tesla but there are no other car companies playing in the same field in the short/medium term. I think the sun will be shining for at least 5 years. Tesla is also innovating so fast that this could be significantly extended.
Ah my bad, missed the "inverted" before the "hammer"You call it tombstone, I call it inverted hammer - same thing.
Regarding the volume, my feeling is that if there is going to be a fight to close above $209, we'll se a lot of volume in the last trading hour
If it stays above 209 this afternoon, might be worth some short term calls. Closed up to exactly Max-pain last Friday if i remember correctly.
From member bignikku's X pickup this morning
"The mix of S and X in assembly has changed from before. Last time I went to the factory for the exclusive preview, there 3-4 S’s and followed by an X. It was actually reverse right now, so a lot of X’s were being assembled. When we were on our way to the pickup, three trucks were departing with new cars, majority of them loaded with X’s. Production is ramping up again which is great for all you folks waiting out there. There were many many X’s that were finished already. Just wait a little longer folks, it is worth it."
Model X May Deliveries
"The mix of S and X in assembly has changed from before. Last time I went to the factory for the exclusive preview, there 3-4 S’s and followed by an X. It was actually reverse right now, so a lot of X’s were being assembled. When we were on our way to the pickup, three trucks were departing with new cars, majority of them loaded with X’s. Production is ramping up again which is great for all you folks waiting out there. There were many many X’s that were finished already. Just wait a little longer folks, it is worth it."
Model X May Deliveries
I am worried the volatility of this stock is really exaggerated, along with some others, of course, by ultra-fast trading. JHM or some of you others sophisticated at statistics might be able to differentiate such trading from other retailers like myself. There is a trading house trying to list another exchange which is immune to such. See: Michael Lewis Reflects on His Book Flash Boys, a Year After It Shook Wall Street to Its Core and About | IEX Group | A Market That Works For Investors
TSLA closed below max pain last Friday, but max-pain helped lift TSLA to the next highest mutliple that was achievable. It's interesting watching the battle for 209. Shorts don't want to see us close in the green today and we've seen this trend much of this week, where shorts bat down the SP when it hits green after a long climb through the red.
No doubt it has hurt the share price. Totally agree on that. But it is still important to not forget the exceptional growth rate even if it is lower than guidance and many do forget that and needs to be reminded
.Elon strikes me as someone that wants to tell the truth and answer honestly. Even in ER calls he kinda want to say things he should not like how much battery prices have been dropping. So I think maybe it is not as easy to have one internal and one public goal but it would be beneficial for the SP.
I don't think this will change, just as Apple beat their guidance every time when they had their iPhone run I think Tesla will miss it way more often than not.
Europe should be 3534 Q1 2016. At least as a closer estimate.
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Not sure where you edit that table.
Another way of looking at it is there's a buyer for every transaction that took place today. Short thesis is getting shaky because they have trouble holding their dips and it looks like the downtrend is running out of steam. Glass half full or half empty?
Tesla shares essentially traced the Nasdaq Composite today, which is often the case on days without significant Tesla news. Announcement of a favorable financing deal could kick the stock nicely upward.
Haven't read this yet, so ignore me if this is not what IEX is proposing but I do want to point out that any market without automatic algo market making means much wider spreads and worse prices and liquidity to retail investors.
For all the crap high frequency trading takes in the press, there are a whole lot of benefits from it. There are almost certainly bad actors doing things they shouldn't be, but keep in mind market manipulation is illegal and these firms are under tons of regulation and scrutiny. It's even a violation to not have tools in place to detect irregularities even when a firm hasn't caused any.
Tldr; high frequency trading is not the evil thing people assume it is and it doesn't harm retail investors. It does however allow skittish retail investors and traders to cause a ton of volatility because of the increased liquidity.
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In addition to my Negativity Scale, I also check on Elon's tweets to determine his level of irritability.
He's let everyone know when he thought the stock was dearly priced. He also gets perturbed when the stock gets hammered, and negative articles get printed. Lately he's sent out a couple of tweets showing that he's irritable, mainly with the LA Times article and the 'overrated' article.
I believe he thought that the stock would rise, not fall, after the CC. He's pissed that the market doesn't believe him. That bodes well for us.
He's let everyone know when he thought the stock was dearly priced. He also gets perturbed when the stock gets hammered, and negative articles get printed. Lately he's sent out a couple of tweets showing that he's irritable, mainly with the LA Times article and the 'overrated' article.
I believe he thought that the stock would rise, not fall, after the CC. He's pissed that the market doesn't believe him. That bodes well for us.
I have a question. It seems to me from reading on this board that the capital raise is potentially the single most important factor in the near term, at least until we get delivery numbers for Q2 in early July.
Obviously, Tesla needs a large amount of money on the order of several billions to fund the Model 3. Here are the possibililties I see:
1. Elon chooses to do a capital raise now. The share price is roughly 207-208 ish which is lower than the 242 SP on the last capital raise. This would represent a "down round" which would dilute shareholder value. As far as I know, Elon has never done this before in any of his companies. Do you see this as a possibility? Why didn't Elon raise before the Q1 CC when the stock price was approaching $270? Do you think he thought that the share price would increase after the revelation of a goal of 500K cars in 2018. Or does he have another plan?
2. Elon chooses to wait till after Q2 delivery numbers which, if good, could elevate stock price. Do you think this is a possibililty or is it too risky given that macro situation could crash and share price could actually drop further.
3. Elon sells a minor stake in the company to a big player (e.g GOOG). Is this a possibility? Elon is of course good friends with Sergei and Larry. Tesla's CFO is from GOOG. A minor investment in Tesla would allow Elon to keep control and allow GOOG to put their money to a good use with potential for high reward. As you know, Larry Page once said he should give all his money to Elon when he dies. A 3 billion investment is a small amount of money for GOOG but would turn this ship around in no time. Most importantly, it would provide TSLA with an extremely powerful ally which, in my opinion, may be necessary to combat large interests such as oil, car dealers, car makers, etc. I believe this would also send a signal to the shorts that Tesla will survive and fluorish and most will cover immediately leading to short squeeze.
Related question: If a large company takes a minor stake in Tesla, does this have to occur at the current share price or could they do it at a higher price (say 250 or 300) and avoid a down round of financing. Obviously, when companies completely buy out other companies, the acquisition price is typically higher than the share price. Does this also apply for minority stakes? Of course, the price will go much higher just on announcement of such a partnership.
I thank you in advance for your insight.
I think this might be correct. Would be great if he would exercise some of his options here like he did at 150 to show his confidence.
I'll repeat this question again since I think most people didn't see it. Has anyone heard anything about the Gigafactory opening party? If you've received an invite can you say if you had to sign a NDA for any info about the event? (Is there such a thing as an NDA for info about the date of an event or any other info provided?)
I think I remember it being mentioned that it would be at the end of May. The shareholder meeting is either on or around May 31st. I don't see a specific date anywhere be Google says its on May 31st or June 8th (estimated).
Based on historic precident, would Elon make this event before or after the shareholder meeting?
I think I remember it being mentioned that it would be at the end of May. The shareholder meeting is either on or around May 31st. I don't see a specific date anywhere be Google says its on May 31st or June 8th (estimated).
Based on historic precident, would Elon make this event before or after the shareholder meeting?
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